2024 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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What happened there, wow what a lap by Max, incredible. Looks like they found some pace after the sprint race. The car looked amazing in S3 in high speed corners, also now more stable in S1,2. The tyre wear will be crucial for tomorrow. But otherwise a good ending of a saturday.

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A reminder, that tire blanket temperature has dropped to this lowest level now in these recent years.

Impact is to start with less balanced heat across the whole tire ultimately.

The fast, heat, scrub, soak, then go for it again, seems to have brought the optimum result here.

Perhaps Ferrari need this too :D it would seem to outweigh late run track rubbering effect/evolution in this case.

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Vettel165 wrote:
30 Nov 2024, 21:35
What happened there, wow what a lap by Max, incredible. Looks like they found some pace after the sprint race. The car looked amazing in S3 in high speed corners, also now more stable in S1,2. The tyre wear will be crucial for tomorrow. But otherwise a good ending of a saturday.
It is impressive how they can improve car performance through the weekend.
Is it about car window or team capacity?
Maybe both because sometimes there is adjustments during the race that works so well!

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RB20 improved half a second since yesterday compared to McLaren, Marko was right weeks ago when he said they will be competitive in Qatar. Great job by the team to find that much time
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This is 21:15 CET. That will be a long wait till 22:30 or so and Connely is a steward. Pfff.

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Paa wrote:
25 Nov 2024, 17:32
Somehow I feel Max will fly on this track.
To be fair I always expected them to be fast here, if anywhere. I mean high-speed corners on a smooth track with kerbs shaved. If they are not competitive here, then nowhere.
If you look at that way, more likely the sprint was a fluke, with limited setup time.

Of course deg will be a key tomorrow, but that should always improve if balance is right.

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2 cars prepping a third barging through ..(5:56)

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Can anyone think why the DRS was so efficient in Q3 compared to others? I'm assuming Max got a nice tow for his best lap

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f1isgood wrote:
30 Nov 2024, 21:05
Okay, on a serious note, I am really surprised by what the team cooked in the last few hours. This amount of performance shift is insane.
I was lulled into thinking like this after the Q in spa, where Max was on pole by an insane margin (0.5+ s, iirc). That too was a case of terrible FP setup, then some homework and revamping of the car before Q. Helmut Marko even said the changes were for race pace. Then we saw what happened in the race, it was terrible.
On the evidence of that, I would take this pole with a pinch of salt, and will believe that Redbull fixed their car, only on race pace data.

Btw, Christian Horner mentioned that they fixed the car for T1, T4 and T16 , but the fastest lap data shows that T16 is still not great, in comparison with the other three teams - Max is slower 8-12kph through the corner - the most important corner of the race, leading into the straight, which is the only overtaking place here.

As the wonderful chart above this post shows, T14 and T15 are super critical for Max, if he has to absorb the losses from T16 and not lose much through the straight.
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organic wrote:
30 Nov 2024, 22:12
Can anyone think why the DRS was so efficient in Q3 compared to others? I'm assuming Max got a nice tow for his best lap

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GdqAa3-WkAA ... =4096x4096
Ver didn't have any tow. They've been quite fast with DRS throughout, so it's consistent with the weekend.

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On the first day the posted the wings. Redbull, McLaren and a bit Less Ferrari have big wings, mercedes has a lower wing. So DRS does a lot.

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organic wrote:
30 Nov 2024, 22:12
Can anyone think why the DRS was so efficient in Q3 compared to others? I'm assuming Max got a nice tow for his best lap
To my layman eyes, for this race, the RB20 has the biggest flap:mainplane size ratio, looking at the car head-on ; out of the top four teams.

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How are they managing +5kph on the straights compared to Mclaren and Ferrari? Mclaren wasn't flat in high speed either (T14 onwards).
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Russell is now being summed as well in regards to Ver incident. Stewards on fent it seems, it's a total nothing burger. Russell sleeping at the wheel not looking ahead nearly rams verstappen and its somehow Verstappens fault even though he's accelerating in that very moment.

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AR3-GP wrote:
30 Nov 2024, 22:40
How are they managing +5kph on the straights compared to Mclaren and Ferrari? Mclaren wasn't flat in high speed either (T14 onwards).
No clue

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