Sebastian Vettel has won the British Grand Prix at Silverstone, retaking the lead 5 laps from the end. An eventful race saw Hamilton in last position after the first lap, and two safety cars making for a tense end of the race. Lewis Hamilton recovered to finish second, ahead of Kimi Raikkonen.
What Vasconia meant was that in the link he sent Arrivabene was not quoted as having told that Ferrari will have trouble because Silverstone is an aero sensitive track. Insisting that Mercedes does have the upper hand in this regard.
Vasconia is right there is nothing in the link, but he was in fact quoted saying that in might be difficult for ferrari this weekend. His exact words were:LM10 wrote: ↑04 Jul 2018, 14:01What Vasconia meant was that in the link he sent Arrivabene was not quoted as having told that Ferrari will have trouble because Silverstone is an aero sensitive track. Insisting that Mercedes does have the upper hand in this regard.
I'd rather have no update at all than one that is not working and kept on the car because of facesaving.LM10 wrote: ↑04 Jul 2018, 13:28Do you mean Ferrari shouldn't bring updates to Silverstone or for the remaining season?FrukostScones wrote: ↑04 Jul 2018, 12:58Ferrari update for Silverstone? Always was a step back or in the wrong direction. Car is fine, they should not do a thing.
I think with all this aero and Turn 1 DRS RedBull will be able to fine tune their car for another VES victory despite the tyre compounds and tread thickness. Lets hope it will still be scorching hot with mad climax thunderstorms and ALO finishing on the podium.
When did Ferrari have an update that didn't work? From 2017 onwards? (maybe that suspension in Spain)FrukostScones wrote: ↑04 Jul 2018, 15:40I'd rather have no update at all than one that is not working and kept on the car because of facesaving.LM10 wrote: ↑04 Jul 2018, 13:28Do you mean Ferrari shouldn't bring updates to Silverstone or for the remaining season?FrukostScones wrote: ↑04 Jul 2018, 12:58Ferrari update for Silverstone? Always was a step back or in the wrong direction. Car is fine, they should not do a thing.
I think with all this aero and Turn 1 DRS RedBull will be able to fine tune their car for another VES victory despite the tyre compounds and tread thickness. Lets hope it will still be scorching hot with mad climax thunderstorms and ALO finishing on the podium.
Everything that they have gotten this season has been on the car. Even the suspension. They have used the same suspension setup since Spain. Maybe they had not figured out how best to setup the car to the new tyres at Barcelona.F1NAC wrote: ↑04 Jul 2018, 16:59When did Ferrari have an update that didn't work? From 2017 onwards? (maybe that suspension in Spain)FrukostScones wrote: ↑04 Jul 2018, 15:40I'd rather have no update at all than one that is not working and kept on the car because of facesaving.
The bargeboards, floor and diffuser which has been put on the car throughout the season had already been on the car in winter testing?Manfer wrote: ↑04 Jul 2018, 18:10Everything that they have gotten this season has been on the car. Even the suspension. They have used the same setup since Spain. Maybe they had not figured out how best to setup the car to the new tyres at Barcelona.F1NAC wrote: ↑04 Jul 2018, 16:59When did Ferrari have an update that didn't work? From 2017 onwards? (maybe that suspension in Spain)FrukostScones wrote: ↑04 Jul 2018, 15:40
I'd rather have no update at all than one that is not working and kept on the car because of facesaving.
Jesus, do I have to use a smiley every time I write something neutral that might sound pissed off?zibby43 wrote: ↑04 Jul 2018, 10:32Whoa, easy there. Just asking a question lol. I mean, I was impressed that the gap in qualifying was as big as it was on a track where I expected to measure the gap in hundredths, not tenths.
And I've seen your comments in that thread. I must've missed the why as to why you don't think it's functional in a significantly beneficial way. Look forward to that post.
And yeah, I'm pissed off because of intentional false tech reports by "expert journos"...I believe you misunderstood me. I meant to say all the upgrades they have bought through the season has stayed on the car and has not been rejected as a "negative upgrade" or an upgrade that did not work as intended. So we can fairly assume that their correlation issues are behind them now.LM10 wrote: ↑04 Jul 2018, 18:46The bargeboards, floor and diffuser which has been put on the car throughout the season had already been on the car in winter testing?
Oh, alright! My bad.Manfer wrote: ↑04 Jul 2018, 19:01I believe you misunderstood me. I meant to say all the upgrades they have bought through the season has stayed on the car and has not been rejected as a "negative upgrade" or an upgrade that did not work as intended. So we can fairly assume that their correlation issues are behind them now.
Erm not really. hamilton was stymied by daniel entering the pits then Vettel got DRS and it was over right there. The pit entry is on the apex of the last turn. Even Brundle commented on it.Schumix wrote: ↑04 Jul 2018, 11:19I don't remember how many times we heard Hamilton claiming in the radio that he was facing troubles (tyre degradation or loss of power) and in the same time he slamed the lap record of the race!
Whatever is the reason, any race driver can be overtaken and defeated as it was the case for Hamilton.
The understanding of some technical people now is that Mercedes brought major upgrades that really work great but in the same time these upgrades apply too much load and stress on the tyres and the whole package. This is why they are in trouble in dirty air. When they are in clean air in front of the race, they achieve to manage their tyres whatever the type is.
Their opponents know that Mercedes is on the edge for the tyre management in dirty air and they will make the most of it by pushing them. It is so simple...
Vettel have not used DRS in the overtake, there's plenty of footage showing the car with DRS closed.PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑05 Jul 2018, 04:27Erm not really. hamilton was stymied by daniel entering the pits then Vettel got DRS and it was over right there. The pit entry is on the apex of the last turn. Even Brundle commented on it.Schumix wrote: ↑04 Jul 2018, 11:19I don't remember how many times we heard Hamilton claiming in the radio that he was facing troubles (tyre degradation or loss of power) and in the same time he slamed the lap record of the race!
Whatever is the reason, any race driver can be overtaken and defeated as it was the case for Hamilton.
The understanding of some technical people now is that Mercedes brought major upgrades that really work great but in the same time these upgrades apply too much load and stress on the tyres and the whole package. This is why they are in trouble in dirty air. When they are in clean air in front of the race, they achieve to manage their tyres whatever the type is.
Their opponents know that Mercedes is on the edge for the tyre management in dirty air and they will make the most of it by pushing them. It is so simple...
Dunno.
If thats the case, It shows how badly Lewis was held up by the Red Bull.
