2023 Miami Grand Prix - Miami Intl. Autodrome, May 05 - 07

[Big Tea]

If I may summarize the anti-RB crew ITT:

Quali: "Didn't make Q3! Wow! He is CRACKING! Perez showing who is the real best driver!"
Race: "It is OVER. The season is DONE. There are NO challengers. Verstappen will win ALL of the races. The sport is DOOMED!"

I wonder how long FOM and FIA will allow this RB dominance Pretty sure the viewing numbers will start to plummet after todays race… Clearly ZERO contenders to Max and his Third WDC this year… Perez is just pathetic sadly…

Basic understanding of F1 history is that it is defined by eras. McLaren era, Ferrari era, RB era, Merc era, etc. F1 has never been known for Mario Kart or NASCAR type races (or whatever the casuals are seeking). If you understand the sport well enough there aren't really any dull races.

Yip, it's sets. The best set of car, driver race team will always dominate because they cover all eventualities.
The best driver may not win due to not having the best car, the best car may not win due to not having the best driver or the best driver in the best car may not win the championship because they do not have the best team*, the car, driver and management will get it right often enough to level out the highs and lows and end the season with more points than luck skill or technology in any other combination.

There have been best drivers without championships, best cars without championships and best teams without championships, but when they come along together, it is obvious after the first few races, others are just making up the numbers.

*Ferrari seem to have their own special slot here

[chrisc90]

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGJuE7WGG/

2 jumped up security clearly don’t know who one of the sports legends are.

I’d have kicked them both off the grid for that!

Good old Jackie Stewart

[vorticism]

*Ferrari seem to have their own special slot here

Ferrari use it as engineering practice, imo. First and foremost they are a road car company. If they win, they win, but it's not the primary goal. Motorsport is built into their brand, so they can only benefit from participating really. Same for Williams and McLaren, imo. They have other related pursuits outside of the sport.

[AR3-GP]

If I may summarize the anti-RB crew ITT:

Quali: "Didn't make Q3! Wow! He is CRACKING! Perez showing who is the real best driver!"
Race: "It is OVER. The season is DONE. There are NO challengers. Verstappen will win ALL of the races. The sport is DOOMED!"

I wonder how long FOM and FIA will allow this RB dominance Pretty sure the viewing numbers will start to plummet after todays race… Clearly ZERO contenders to Max and his Third WDC this year… Perez is just pathetic sadly…

Basic understanding of F1 history is that it is defined by eras. McLaren era, Ferrari era, RB era, Merc era, etc. F1 has never been known for Mario Kart or NASCAR type races (or whatever the casuals are seeking). If you understand the sport well enough there aren't really any dull races.

Agreed on both points, especially the former

For people who lack creativity, I recommend subscribing to F1 TV. It's so fascinating to watch onboards and listen to live driver radio. It tells a completely different and more fascinating story than any of the cut, manipulated, and deliberately misleading placement of radio messages on the Sky broadcast. I often find myself just muting the sky commentary, and watching onboards and listening to driver radio. That's a bit of a hidden gem nowadays. Hopefully Liberty won't ruin it by coming up with a silly scheme to sell tickets that allow fans to talk on the driver radio

[chrisc90]

Don’t give them ideas! Imagine a £££ for a 5 second message or something.

F1Tv is leagues ahead of sky and the terrible bias they have. Be I’d rather watch the race on mute than listen to sky.

[Zynerji]

No one is getting near RB in this regulation, I’m afraid. Merc rebuilding, Ferrari a mess, and AMR just aren’t ready. Got the good concept, but unable to develop it to challenge RB. Perez might leave at season close, he’s knows he can’t win. Ricciardo waiting in the wings.

Perez is contracted until 2024.

And could replace DeVries if Helmut says so...

[Sevach]

No one is getting near RB in this regulation, I’m afraid. Merc rebuilding, Ferrari a mess, and AMR just aren’t ready. Got the good concept, but unable to develop it to challenge RB. Perez might leave at season close, he’s knows he can’t win. Ricciardo waiting in the wings.

Perez is contracted until 2024.

Means very little, in all honesty. Boring for us if he stays on.

He's gonna stay just like Bottas did... because boring is good for the leading team.

[mendis]

If I may summarize the anti-RB crew ITT:

Quali: "Didn't make Q3! Wow! He is CRACKING! Perez showing who is the real best driver!"
Race: "It is OVER. The season is DONE. There are NO challengers. Verstappen will win ALL of the races. The sport is DOOMED!"

I wonder how long FOM and FIA will allow this RB dominance Pretty sure the viewing numbers will start to plummet after todays race… Clearly ZERO contenders to Max and his Third WDC this year… Perez is just pathetic sadly…

Basic understanding of F1 history is that it is defined by eras. McLaren era, Ferrari era, RB era, Merc era, etc. F1 has never been known for Mario Kart or NASCAR type races (or whatever the casuals are seeking). If you understand the sport well enough there aren't really any dull races.

Agreed on both points, especially the former

For people who lack creativity, I recommend subscribing to F1 TV. It's so fascinating to watch onboards and listen to live driver radio. It tells a completely different and more fascinating story than any of the cut, manipulated, and deliberately misleading placement of radio messages on the Sky broadcast. I often find myself just muting the sky commentary, and watching onboards and listening to driver radio. That's a bit of a hidden gem nowadays. Hopefully Liberty won't ruin it by coming up with a silly scheme to sell tickets that allow fans to talk on the driver radio

Finally, thank God, we have now got F1TV subscription working in my country as no one has bought the local broadcasting rights. All these years it was utter pain to listen to Sky commentary as that's the global feed. Now I run the regular race feed, F1 live timing and driver onboard side by side on different monitors. It's so much fun.

[PlatinumZealot]

Yeah english streams are extremely hard to find these days. It's like Sky has hired people to scour the internet for them.

I have found a good P2P source but it's a bit inconsistent when it works. I might just give in and pay the $60 a year.

[Zynerji]

Yeah english streams are extremely hard to find these days. It's like Sky has hired people to scour the internet for them.

I have found a good P2P source but it's a bit inconsistent when it works. I might just give in and pay the $60 a year.

Best money I spend on F1. And the archives allows for some great off-season watching!

[cplchanb]

No one is getting near RB in this regulation, I’m afraid. Merc rebuilding, Ferrari a mess, and AMR just aren’t ready. Got the good concept, but unable to develop it to challenge RB. Perez might leave at season close, he’s knows he can’t win. Ricciardo waiting in the wings.

Perez is contracted until 2024.

Perez had a contract at racing point for 2020 as well....

[AR3-GP]

No one is getting near RB in this regulation, I’m afraid. Merc rebuilding, Ferrari a mess, and AMR just aren’t ready. Got the good concept, but unable to develop it to challenge RB. Perez might leave at season close, he’s knows he can’t win. Ricciardo waiting in the wings.

Perez is contracted until 2024.

Perez had a contract at racing point for 2020 as well....

I don't know the details of his 2020 contract situation, but it was with a different team under different circumstances.

[mendis]

No one is getting near RB in this regulation, I’m afraid. Merc rebuilding, Ferrari a mess, and AMR just aren’t ready. Got the good concept, but unable to develop it to challenge RB. Perez might leave at season close, he’s knows he can’t win. Ricciardo waiting in the wings.

Perez is contracted until 2024.

Perez had a contract at racing point for 2020 as well....

Which was honoured and he drove for RP. He didn't get a new contract for 2021 at RP, but got one at RB.

[Andres125sx]

Alonso watching race from his cockpit now

Amazing guy, how on earth can he watch the screens from the cockpit?

[Bill]

Perez is contracted until 2024.

Perez had a contract at racing point for 2020 as well....

Which was honoured and he drove for RP. He didn't get a new contract for 2021 at RP, but got one at RB.

ferrari was faster than redbull last year with these regulation so its no true that no one can get near redbull.ferrari need to improve their tire wear then we will see were their pace is.if you have an efficient pu you can carry less fuel thats part of redbull advantage that when Brawn drew these regulation he overlooked that the pu still play a massive role in deciding who wins.Aston martin has a car good on tires and over one lap ,i think they are being let down by pu