2023 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, July 07 - 09

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So what’s people guesses on how much pace this upgrade brought McLaren on race pace? Must be one of the most biggest upgrades in many many years of F1

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chrisc90 wrote:
09 Jul 2023, 19:39
So what’s people guesses on how much pace this upgrade brought McLaren on race pace? Must be one of the most biggest upgrades in many many years of F1
Toto Wolf said it was 1 second. That's more or less correct to my eye.

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Sevach wrote:
09 Jul 2023, 19:05
McLaren just showed the best non-Red Bull race pace we've seen all season.
Which is incredible and at the same time pathetic for the traditional big teams, what a piss poor job they've done.
McLaren is a big team, people just forgot, because they've been so bad for so long...
Their budgets were near the RB, Ferrari, Mercedes trio these past years.

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Just_a_fan wrote:
09 Jul 2023, 19:32
Zynerji wrote:
09 Jul 2023, 17:42
I'm thinking....

2024
Lando to RBR, and Lewis comes home to McL to retire.👀👀👀
Lando would be mad to move to RBR, frankly.

Lewis is either at Merc or retired. I don't see why he'd go to McLaren nor why would want to replace a young gun with a veteran.
Mad to go to a winning team? Saying such things is madness...

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AR3-GP wrote:
09 Jul 2023, 19:40
chrisc90 wrote:
09 Jul 2023, 19:39
So what’s people guesses on how much pace this upgrade brought McLaren on race pace? Must be one of the most biggest upgrades in many many years of F1
Toto Wolf said it was 1 second. That's more or less correct to my eye.
Now I'm curious if the third part of the big upgrade package will make them even faster in Hungary.

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mzso wrote:
09 Jul 2023, 21:33
AR3-GP wrote:
09 Jul 2023, 19:40
chrisc90 wrote:
09 Jul 2023, 19:39
So what’s people guesses on how much pace this upgrade brought McLaren on race pace? Must be one of the most biggest upgrades in many many years of F1
Toto Wolf said it was 1 second. That's more or less correct to my eye.
Now I'm curious if the third part of the big upgrade package will make them even faster in Hungary.
A frightening thought

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AR3-GP wrote:
09 Jul 2023, 21:34
mzso wrote:
09 Jul 2023, 21:33
AR3-GP wrote:
09 Jul 2023, 19:40


Toto Wolf said it was 1 second. That's more or less correct to my eye.
Now I'm curious if the third part of the big upgrade package will make them even faster in Hungary.
A frightening thought
Interestingly, I’m just watching an interview with Stella, he say’s the downforce levels of the upgrade correlated with expectations, but the lap time gain was greater than expected, a surprise to them too

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the EDGE wrote:
09 Jul 2023, 21:54
AR3-GP wrote:
09 Jul 2023, 21:34
mzso wrote:
09 Jul 2023, 21:33

Now I'm curious if the third part of the big upgrade package will make them even faster in Hungary.
A frightening thought
Interestingly, I’m just watching an interview with Stella, he say’s the downforce levels of the upgrade correlated with expectations, but the lap time gain was greater than expected, a surprise to them too
There may have been a benefit from the new tires, which would have been difficult to predict.

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AR3-GP wrote:
09 Jul 2023, 19:40
chrisc90 wrote:
09 Jul 2023, 19:39
So what’s people guesses on how much pace this upgrade brought McLaren on race pace? Must be one of the most biggest upgrades in many many years of F1
Toto Wolf said it was 1 second. That's more or less correct to my eye.
Norris referred to that statement as complete nonsense, said it was more among the lines of 2-3 tenths.

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What happened between these two ?

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Spoutnik wrote:
09 Jul 2023, 22:45


What happened between these two ?
I think he actually says "don't squeeze me like that Carlos". In the race Carlos squeezed Gasly into copse. I don't think it was as bad as Gasly received it, but it is a particularly risky corner.

Here's the incident, with some angry radio from Gasly some time after


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Spoutnik wrote:
09 Jul 2023, 22:45


What happened between these two ?
Into Copse some time after the SC restart. Sainz pushed Gasly to the edge of the track on the outside so Gasly backed out before Copse.

It looked like Sainz "intimidated" him into backing out :lol:

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AR3-GP wrote:
09 Jul 2023, 22:55
Spoutnik wrote:
09 Jul 2023, 22:45


What happened between these two ?
Into Copse some time after the SC restart. Sainz pushed Gasly to the edge of the track on the outside so Gasly backed out before Copse.

It looked like Sainz "intimidated" him into backing out :lol:
Not sure what the issue is tbh, gap was there and he took it with some hard and fair racing.

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mzso wrote:
09 Jul 2023, 21:27
Just_a_fan wrote:
09 Jul 2023, 19:32
Zynerji wrote:
09 Jul 2023, 17:42
I'm thinking....

2024
Lando to RBR, and Lewis comes home to McL to retire.👀👀👀
Lando would be mad to move to RBR, frankly.

Lewis is either at Merc or retired. I don't see why he'd go to McLaren nor why would want to replace a young gun with a veteran.
Mad to go to a winning team? Saying such things is madness...
Mad to go to Max's team. Any driver going to Red Bull at the moment is going in to a number 2 seat. Why would Lando do that? Lando isn't interested in playing second fiddle to Max.
If you are more fortunate than others, build a larger table not a taller fence.

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McLaren so far, has amazing car. Imagine that they are in the final stage use the hard compound and at the last lap, Lando is not to far from Verstappen, which was using soft tyre