Ferrari F2012

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Pierce89
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If you ignore the "Acer ducts" or exhaust holes or whatever the hell they are, then this car has on tight rear end
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Mazdaboy
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Another pic:

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Owen.C93
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I'm a little bit worried that Renault and Red-Bull seem to be strong and now Ferrari have seemingly found a lot of performance in the same exhaust placement that they used.
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Snipped from Atlas, from the notorious Jose Louis (not my translation)...
* Today, updates in the cooling intended to be used in specific circuits and / or new parts that evacuate more heat were tested in the F2012

* Then, a new floor and diffuser were installed. The results were contradictory/inconclusive. Therefore, they proceeded to use aerodynamic markers

* After the analysis of the markers and telemetry, a profound change in the setup was carried out. The results are to be analyzed yet.

* The start system was tested using a new clutch & software. Results were, in principle, excellent, according to the driver and the team

* Then, some long stints were carried out in order to check the consistency and overall reliability as well as the tyre management.

* Let's see if tomorrow, tuning the setup and with some more parts, they achieve some of the expected downforce and the improvement of the damn traction
Still the uncertainty...

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Pierce89 wrote:If you ignore the "Acer ducts" or exhaust holes or whatever the hell they are, then this car has on tight rear end
Can't ignore the Acer ducts. Air doesn't, anyways.
Ferrari is in a bit of a spot if their upgrades are inconclusive. Not looking good

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amouzouris
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i think that by inconclusive they mean..neither the driver felt the difference nor the lap times showed any difference so they proceeded with downforce markers to evaluate if there is really any difference...the fact though that the driver or the lap times didn't show a difference could mean a lot of things...very small gain....they work better with different setup....track conditions...etc etc..

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amouzouris
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apart from the slightly modifies diffuser and the wing like gurney...what other differences were made to the floor for the upgrade??

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amouzouris wrote:...what other differences were made to the floor for the upgrade??

It's the KERS battery! (Sorry.)

I'm now officially concerned.

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Pierce89
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NoDivergence wrote:
Pierce89 wrote:If you ignore the "Acer ducts" or exhaust holes or whatever the hell they are, then this car has on tight rear end
Can't ignore the Acer ducts. Air doesn't, anyways.
Ferrari is in a bit of a spot if their upgrades are inconclusive. Not looking good
actually with their placement, they'll not impede the flow into the coke bottle badly at all. But, anyways the Ferrari rearend IS quite small and tight
“To be able to actually make something is awfully nice”
Bruce McLaren on building his first McLaren racecars, 1970

“I've got to be careful what I say, but possibly to probably Juan would have had a bigger go”
Sir Frank Williams after the 2003 Canadian GP, where Ralf hesitated to pass brother M. Schumacher

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Still trying to figure out what the metal thing Bhall has been talking about is. Here's a shot of the rear floor from a different angle. The metal piece is clear, I just can't tell what it is.

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You may have missed it yesterday. On a lark, I threw out the idea that the floor is the KERS battery. I discovered that possibility when I was looking for ways the floor could be used as a heatsink. As preposterous as it sounds - and likely really is - a battery-floor is surprisingly plausible on the surface of the matter.

But, really, looking at this car, there's no way. I've held my tongue for as long as I can. This car looks DOA.

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aleks_ader
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bhallg2k wrote:This car looks DOA.
What is that DOA??
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Crucial_Xtreme wrote:Still trying to figure out what the metal thing Bhall has been talking about is. Here's a shot of the rear floor from a different angle. The metal piece is clear, I just can't tell what it is.

right click>view image
[img]http://www.formula1.com/wi/sutton/2011/ ... 34.jpg[img]
Looks like a support for the floor attached to the gearbox.
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aleks_ader
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Owen.C93 wrote:
Crucial_Xtreme wrote:Still trying to figure out what the metal thing Bhall has been talking about is. Here's a shot of the rear floor from a different angle. The metal piece is clear, I just can't tell what it is.

right click>view image
[img]http://www.formula1.com/wi/sutton/2011/ ... 34.jpg[img]
Looks like a support for the floor attached to the gearbox.
And maybe they want cleaner flow under rear crash structure?
"And if you no longer go for a gap that exists, you're no longer a racing driver..." Ayrton Senna

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bhallg2k wrote:You may have missed it yesterday. On a lark, I threw out the idea that the floor is the KERS battery. I discovered that possibility when I was looking for ways the floor could be used as a heatsink. As preposterous as it sounds - and likely really is - a battery-floor is surprisingly plausible on the surface of the matter.

But, really, looking at this car, there's no way. I've held my tongue for as long as I can. This car looks DOA.
Yeah I saw it, but was trying to avoid the drama. This car is not DOA. Alexander that means "Dead On Arrival". The car is competitive. We'll be 3rd in melbourne. Question is can we extract the most performance from it & move higher in the order.

Edit: thats kind of what I was thinking Owen but wanted someone esle to say it first. :))

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