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Yeah, that's why I was waiting for qualifying. For a precise comparison, on a dry circuit. Unfortunately, that will have to waitbeelsebob wrote: Alternatively... Comparing times when no one was pushing at all, is bullshit.
The SC obviously helped, but that was a great Grand Prix.JimClarkFan wrote:I'm seriously worried about the race, I think we could see a procession of everyone just driving to their fuel limits and never pushing. I hear Merc are good on fuel but the other teams are strugglying... Hopefully now.
Quali was brilliant today, I just love seeing the drivers fighting with the car. It has rejuvenated my interest in F1 which was waning. Just these pesky fuel limits now.
The cars are great, I'm loving the lack of traction and watching the drivers actually driving... however, replacing Red Bull for Mercedes as the dominant force (although a welcome change of pace) will start to grate eventually as well. It looks like they have at least half a second in race mode over the rest of the field.Sulman wrote:The SC obviously helped, but that was a great Grand Prix.JimClarkFan wrote:I'm seriously worried about the race, I think we could see a procession of everyone just driving to their fuel limits and never pushing. I hear Merc are good on fuel but the other teams are strugglying... Hopefully now.
Quali was brilliant today, I just love seeing the drivers fighting with the car. It has rejuvenated my interest in F1 which was waning. Just these pesky fuel limits now.
These cars are certainly very interesting to watch. There's some moaning about the noise, but honestly I think on the whole it's a great formula.
Half a second? More like 2 seconds tbh. Rosberg was casually pulling out 1.5 seconds a lap on Ricciardo, despite Ricciardo using too much fuel, and driving relatively hard to try to keep ahead of the McLarens.JimClarkFan wrote:The cars are great, I'm loving the lack of traction and watching the drivers actually driving... however, replacing Red Bull for Mercedes as the dominant force (although a welcome change of pace) will start to grate eventually as well. It looks like they have at least half a second in race mode over the rest of the field.Sulman wrote:The SC obviously helped, but that was a great Grand Prix.JimClarkFan wrote:I'm seriously worried about the race, I think we could see a procession of everyone just driving to their fuel limits and never pushing. I hear Merc are good on fuel but the other teams are strugglying... Hopefully now.
Quali was brilliant today, I just love seeing the drivers fighting with the car. It has rejuvenated my interest in F1 which was waning. Just these pesky fuel limits now.
These cars are certainly very interesting to watch. There's some moaning about the noise, but honestly I think on the whole it's a great formula.
Me too, it's great. You know what I also like, the fact that I can hear tyres squealing, or the whistle going every time a person enters the pit lane. All these extra things just allow feel it better.beelsebob wrote: Half a second? More like 2 seconds tbh. Rosberg was casually pulling out 1.5 seconds a lap on Ricciardo, despite Ricciardo using too much fuel, and driving relatively hard to try to keep ahead of the McLarens.
Fwiw, other than the dominance of one team, I'm loving watching the drivers actually earn their pay cheque. They're getting the tails out much more often, and it seems like it's possible for a following driver to pressure a leader into a mistake now.
Why would Monza be important? Anybody expecting to see higher speeds at Monza are going to be very disappointed. These engines produce less power at higher RPM than the V8s did because they rev lower and have to be geared longer accordingly. They meet in the middle, in other words.SectorOne wrote:Will be interesting to see the gap at Monza.
Except, as we've already seen at the Bahrain tests, they do indeed hit much higher speeds thanks to vastly increased torque even at "high" revs, and gearing.munudeges wrote:Why would Monza be important? Anybody expecting to see higher speeds at Monza are going to be very disappointed. These engines produce less power at higher RPM than the V8s did because they rev lower and have to be geared longer accordingly. They meet in the middle, in other words.SectorOne wrote:Will be interesting to see the gap at Monza.
Are we looking at the same data?Juzh wrote:I seriously doubt we'll see THAT much higher speeds. Race top speeds were quite pathetic in australia for nearly all the cars (http://184.106.145.74/f1-championship/f ... ap_V01.pdf) in the self-sustaining ERS mode and all the fuel savings (just look at rosberg, even he topped only 300), while in quali you don't get slipstream. We've seen cars hitting rev limiters much harder during the race in monza than during quali.