Forces on aerodynamic tunnel in Vacuum

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StoyanNikolov
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Forces on aerodynamic tunnel in Vacuum

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Is it possible airfoil to generate lift, if it is
contained in an enclosed space, to lift the enclosed space?

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Please see Option 1 on the attached picture.
Thank you.

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Steven
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Re: Forces on aerodynamic tunnel in Vacuum

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No.

If you put your airfoil in a closed body, the airfoil or whatever else inside the body doesn't matter.

You are left with a body that will only generate lift of whatever if it acts upon its outside environment (for example divert air passing over it - which is not possible here either because you stated the body is in a vacuum). What happens inside the body is irrelevant.

YD14
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Re: Forces on aerodynamic tunnel in Vacuum

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If you are still unclear why internal flow and airfoil won't create a new rocket engine, think in terms of pressure in a cross-section of the tube where the airfoil is located.

------------------------- ceiling of the tube
low pressure (-p)
------------------------- airfoil
high pressure ( p)
------------------------- floor of the tube

The airfoil has higher pressure below it and lower pressure above it so wants to move up and take the tube with itself. But look at the ceiling and floor of the tube. The floor has higher pressure above it so it experiences a force downwards. The ceiling too experiences a downward force as it has low pressure below it.
Let's calculate these forces:
1. On ceiling: p*A downwards, where A is the horizontal cross-section area of the tube
2. On the floor: p*A downwards
3. On foil: (-p-p)*A downwards = 2p*A upwards

The only area that is to be considered is in the direction of the resultant force which is equal to the horizontal cross-section area of the tube same as the airfoil.
As you can see the upwards and downward forces cancel out and all we have created is internal stress within the tube's structure. Always remember the concept of internal and external forces on a system. :D