Review of penalties and the way they are served.

[sp8472]

F1 needs to review the way they apply penalties and the way they ensure the way they are served.

Let’s firstly set aside the issue of consistency in the decisions. This is a separate but no less important question.

There have been several penalties applied in recent times that do not appear to have had the desired outcome. Which I believe should be to punish breaches in the rules or driving standards in the race for which they occurred.

There have been examples of where the penalty appears to have had little to no impact. Such as Hass in the recent Saudi race where the penalty, via smart team play actually provided a benefit. Or the many ‘overtaking off track’ or ‘running other drivers of the track’ overtakes, where the penalty has no impact once the driver gets past and gains enough time to offset the penalty.

Then there is the example of Perez in Japan last year (I think) retiring from the race, only to serve his penalty sitting in the car in the pits. He had clearly retired from the race at this point. Any penalty served had no impact on the outcome of the race. Why force someone who has retired from the race to serve a penalty? Compared with the recent example of Daniel in a similar position now has a 3 grid position penalty for the next race. Pretty much wrecking his next weekend.

I am not defending Daniel. He passed under a SC and should not have done that. But with today’s technology the call should have been made immediately. The rules are clear. There are cameras everywhere and plenty of people to review them.

Teams have figured out how to game the penalty system. Penalties should be served within 3 laps. Don’t give drivers the time to benefit from them. If you have done your pit stop, then so be it. All time penalties should be served in the pits.

Calls should be made almost immediately. Penalties should only impact you in the race with you received them. Besides for extreme cases of dangerous driving. If the driver ends up retiring before serving the penalty, is this not sufficient?


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[slinger]

Paint a car width line on the outside of all corners and have them do a penalty lap where they have to drive within the lines on the corners, within 3 laps of the penalty being given, or it a stop/go in your pit box...

[PapayaFan481]

Talk on Sky Sports News that IF, and I appreciate that's a big if, Ocon was benched for Canada, then whoever replaced him would still be hit with the grid place drop Ocon got as a penalty for the collision in Monaco.

Is this accurate?

Seems stupid to me. The penalty surely should stay with the driver and be applied at his next race...

[Waz]

MotoGP is very quick with penalty decisions, and many of the regulations during the race are black and white. Sometimes it's harsh, but all the riders are aware and understand the situation, so there's no room for real complaints.

F1 could easily set out a black and white framework for a range of incidents, apply the attached penalty and go back to having it served within 3 laps.

It should be easy enough to add a long lap loop to one corner in the same way MotoGP does for minor infractions.

This can also be elevated to a double long lap penalty for something more serious, but not serious enough to warrant a ride or drive through the pits.

Failing to serve a long lap within 3 laps gets it promoted to a double long lap and then a ride through.

[sp8472]

MotoGP seems to have a lot of elegant solutions to the same problems that F1 face. And they seem to be better at implementing them than F1.

I like the long loop option, but figured there would always be some excuse that F1 tracks could not be modified for this. But most tracks now days seem to always have some kind of alternative track configurations that would allow it.


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[PapayaFan481]

MotoGP seems to have a lot of elegant solutions to the same problems that F1 face. And they seem to be better at implementing them than F1.

I like the long loop option, but figured there would always be some excuse that F1 tracks could not be modified for this. But most tracks now days seem to always have some kind of alternative track configurations that would allow it.


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Off the top of my head, the ones that would struggle with this are Monaco, Spa, Canada, maybe Singapore....