Silly season 2024-2025

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codetower wrote:
01 Oct 2024, 21:22
PapayaFan481 wrote:
29 Sep 2024, 23:17
It's almost like we need a couple more teams on the grid lol
Nah, I think we have enough traffic on the grid now.

Me personally, I think we just need to clean up the drivers. We have too many drivers that are good, but not good enough to make a difference. Drivers like Gasly, Bottas, Stroll, Ocon, Albon, Perez... they are decent drivers, some are even good drivers, but realistically there aren't any top teams knocking on their doors wanting to bring them in, they've all peaked. I think we can open up a good 4+ seats for some of these young drivers.
Drivers in the bottom half of the points table should have there super license cancelled if they finish there for 3 years in a row.

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FW17 wrote:
05 Oct 2024, 17:13
Drivers in the bottom half of the points table should have there super license cancelled if they finish there for 3 years in a row.
By that rule, Russel should have his superlicense taken away in 2021.

Punishing drivers for driving for their team's inability to produce a fast car is silly.

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SharkY wrote:
09 Oct 2024, 15:35
FW17 wrote:
05 Oct 2024, 17:13
Drivers in the bottom half of the points table should have there super license cancelled if they finish there for 3 years in a row.
By that rule, Russel should have his superlicense taken away in 2021.

Punishing drivers for driving for their team's inability to produce a fast car is silly.
What good was Bottas in 2021 when that seat could have been Russel's. With a rule like this it will force sponsored drivers to be moved up rather than be permanently placed at the lower half of the grid.

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FW17 wrote:
09 Oct 2024, 18:19

What good was Bottas in 2021 when that seat could have been Russel's. With a rule like this it will force sponsored drivers to be moved up rather than be permanently placed at the lower half of the grid.
That is a very interesting theory.
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FW17 wrote:
05 Oct 2024, 17:13
codetower wrote:
01 Oct 2024, 21:22
PapayaFan481 wrote:
29 Sep 2024, 23:17
It's almost like we need a couple more teams on the grid lol
Nah, I think we have enough traffic on the grid now.

Me personally, I think we just need to clean up the drivers. We have too many drivers that are good, but not good enough to make a difference. Drivers like Gasly, Bottas, Stroll, Ocon, Albon, Perez... they are decent drivers, some are even good drivers, but realistically there aren't any top teams knocking on their doors wanting to bring them in, they've all peaked. I think we can open up a good 4+ seats for some of these young drivers.
Drivers in the bottom half of the points table should have there super license cancelled if they finish there for 3 years in a row.
Formula 1 is 90% car so that's a very unfair rule.
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And the silly part of FW17's rule is that the pay driver has to be around for 3 years. Which crappy pay driver even survives for three years these days?
So it actually hurts a good driver in a bad car more than a crap driver in a crap car.
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PlatinumZealot wrote:
09 Oct 2024, 20:27
And the silly part of FW17's rule is that the pay driver has to be around for 3 years. Which crappy pay driver even survives for three years these days?
So it actually hurts a good driver in a bad car more than a crap driver in a crap car.
The implication is that if a driver is actually "good", a higher ranked team will "save" him.
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I like the carrot more than the stick. How about creating an incentive for minor teams to find and sign future top drivers?

The minimum prize money paid out is 60 million, so let's use that as a basis. Let's give 40 million to the team that first let the world champion drive for 51% of a season, 15 to the team that set up the runner up, and 5 million to the third driver in the world championship.

For 2023 that would mean :
AlphaTauri (formerly Toro Rosso): 40 million for Max Verstappen.
Alfa Romeo (formerly Sauber): 15 million for Sergio Pérez.
McLaren: 5 million for Lewis Hamilton.

If this system would have been in place for the last 10 years, the value of giving the chance to the top drivers would be:

Hamilton: 325 million
Verstappen: 135 million
Vettel: 75 million.

With that kinda upside, would anyone really have any patience with a driver like Mazepin for a 13 million sponsorship a year?

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Audi if they are looking to have a German driver at the team for the future, Mick would be great choice.

Nico is signed up, but he is not going to he there for too long. Looking at the F2 and F3 ladder there is no one who would qulify for a SL

Pascal Wehrlein probably the other driver with one, but hos experience os even less relevant to Audi

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FW17 wrote:
16 Oct 2024, 03:29
Audi if they are looking to have a German driver at the team for the future, Mick would be great choice.

Nico is signed up, but he is not going to he there for too long. Looking at the F2 and F3 ladder there is no one who would qulify for a SL

Pascal Wehrlein probably the other driver with one, but hos experience os even less relevant to Audi
Honestly, Mick was underwhelming - he’ll never be a full time F1 driver again.
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FW17 wrote:Audi if they are looking to have a German driver at the team for the future, Mick would be great choice.

Nico is signed up, but he is not going to he there for too long. Looking at the F2 and F3 ladder there is no one who would qulify for a SL

Pascal Wehrlein probably the other driver with one, but hos experience os even less relevant to Audi
Mick, great choice? He did a lot of wreckage and did not show any impressive potential over those two years, getting overshadowed by Magnussen, who is now getting hammered by Hülkenberg. Rookies are a growing trend, Bearman and Colapinto have shown that you don't need more than two years of experience to deliver results. There might be a de Vries effect for the future, but still, they have been impressive.


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Yep, but with his last name pedigree, money and full time PR team, Mick's name always stays in the mix.

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UlleGulle wrote:
15 Oct 2024, 10:42
I like the carrot more than the stick. How about creating an incentive for minor teams to find and sign future top drivers?
That incentive already existed. You get a top driver for cheap. Sauber just decided their future top driver Theo Pourchaire is no longer a future top driver.

Even if Zhou had more budget before, Audi now prefers Colapinto or Borteleto over Pourchaire despite being in rival junior programs.

It would be great to see Sauber stick Pourchaire in the car, even for half a season, to finally work out if Pourchaire is any good or not after all!

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How is Perez still in that Red Bull? He is going to cost them 2nd in the WCC at this rate.... Surely there are discussions about putting Lawson in there after Mexico??
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PapayaFan481 wrote:
21 Oct 2024, 11:35
How is Perez still in that Red Bull? He is going to cost them 2nd in the WCC at this rate.... Surely there are discussions about putting Lawson in there after Mexico??
They should have fired Perez and promoted Daniel, then Liam could prove himself for the rest of the year at RB.
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