2025 f1 predictions

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[TeamKoolGreen]

George had as many poles as Leclerc last year , in the 4th fastest car. This is a year of learning for Antonelli. He would have to be better than Verstappen , let alone the next Verstappen , to beat George Russell. Hes 18 years old.

Hamilton is a historically slow starter. Plus hes in a new team. It is surprising how many ppl have him so high in their predictions.

[TeamKoolGreen]

I run a

I'd be amazed if Verstappen only scores 58% of Red Bull's points. How did it came up with that number?

Max scored 74% of the team's points last year. I don't think Lawson is going to fair much better than Perez.

Perez could barely finish races or get out of Q1. He was completely finished as a driver. There's no way Lawson is going to be as bad as Perez.

[dren]

I'd be amazed if Verstappen only scores 58% of Red Bull's points. How did it came up with that number?

Max scored 74% of the team's points last year. I don't think Lawson is going to fair much better than Perez.

Perez could barely finish races or get out of Q1. He was completely finished as a driver. There's no way Lawson is going to be as bad as Perez.

You're right, he'll probably be worse.

[TeamKoolGreen]

Max scored 74% of the team's points last year. I don't think Lawson is going to fair much better than Perez.

Perez could barely finish races or get out of Q1. He was completely finished as a driver. There's no way Lawson is going to be as bad as Perez.

You're right, he'll probably be worse.

Well Lawson already out qualified Max in an Alpha Tauri. Something Perez couldn't do in a Red Bull. So you'd be wrong already.

[purestpurist]

Perez could barely finish races or get out of Q1. He was completely finished as a driver. There's no way Lawson is going to be as bad as Perez.

You're right, he'll probably be worse.

Well Lawson already out qualified Max in an Alpha Tauri. Something Perez couldn't do in a Red Bull. So you'd be wrong already.

Perez outqualified Verstappen a handful of times. Half were due to various mechanical/timing issues for Max, but a few (Jeddah 2022 and Imola 2021 spring to mind) were legitimate. That being said I wouldn't be surprised if Lawson is some kind of improvement over Perez because I think Perez lost his head and was underperforming relative to his own capabilities.

[TeamKoolGreen]

^ I agree. Thats what I was getting at. Lawson will beat the 2023/2024 version of Perez. Because Perez lost his head. But the previous poster was saying that Lawson won't do any better than 2024 Perez

[Matt2725]

Might just be me, but I feel like Ferrari is being overrated and hyped up a little too much.

I think reality is going to come crashing down in short order.

[Chuckjr]

Might just be me, but I feel like Ferrari is being overrated and hyped up a little too much.

I think reality is going to come crashing down in short order.

Quite possibly yes.

There are a lot of similar vibes, to me at least, with the pull rod they went with this year to when they initiated using it with Alonso. They worked and worked on it for years and never got it right. I remember in the Ferrari forum all the relief everyone expressed when they finally went back to push rod. So it will be extremely interesting to see what happens, because Lewis doesn’t have the career time to futz around with dialing in a car for two years. He needs a winning car NOW. And this whole pull rod thing is very possibly opening a can of worms since now the tires and their very specific heating and cooling cycles and just overall finikyness makes the study all the more difficult. This does not point to finding equilibrium quickly, not to mention they are doing this on a regulation change year. So the car will be completely different next year making a lot of what they learn this year to dial in the car will have to be started again next year. It really is striking to me they chose this rout the very year the car will change the following. There are so many storylines to follow in 2025. It will be exciting for sure.

[KimiRai]

Everyone keeps saying 2025 will be amazing 4 evenly matched teams fighting for victories etc etc so it would be funny if that isn't the case at all and McLaren has a decent advantage of a few tenths.

So far, so good

[DGP123]

Everyone keeps saying 2025 will be amazing 4 evenly matched teams fighting for victories etc etc so it would be funny if that isn't the case at all and McLaren has a decent advantage of a few tenths.

So far, so good

Always feared it would be anti climatic with the hype. Unfortunately, both championships look done and dusted. To make it worse, rivals will focus on 26’ relatively early too, so am expecting a total blow out by Macca this year.

[dren]

I'd be amazed if Verstappen only scores 58% of Red Bull's points. How did it came up with that number?

Max scored 74% of the team's points last year. I don't think Lawson is going to fair much better than Perez.

Perez could barely finish races or get out of Q1. He was completely finished as a driver. There's no way Lawson is going to be as bad as Perez.

[TeamKoolGreen]

Max scored 74% of the team's points last year. I don't think Lawson is going to fair much better than Perez.

Perez could barely finish races or get out of Q1. He was completely finished as a driver. There's no way Lawson is going to be as bad as Perez.

Yeah whatever. The worst track, the worst conditions and he had literally zero FP3 time. Alonso and Sainz also crashed on their own. Along with a half dozen other drivers.

I guess we will see. Maybe the car is just undrivable. It wouldn't have worked out any better for Tsunoda. But at least it was Lawsons rookie year. Tsunoda was Logan Sargeant in his rookie year.

I am also going to drop a quote from Cs98 from a different thread

Whoever does the weather strategy for this team needs a good wake up call. Totally threw Lawson under the bus when that second shower hit with a strategy that can best be described as a hope and a prayer. It was obvious for 2-3 laps that the rain was getting too strong for slicks and that it was heading towards the rest of the track, not just S3. Still, they try to gamble with a guy that is already lacking confidence in the car where the last thing you want is for him to crash. Absolutely moronic. If anything they should've gambled towards the inter, that way you don't crash if you get it wrong. The team has the radar, not the driver, don't leave the call to go to inters to the driver. Such foolishness.

[Emag]

Everyone keeps saying 2025 will be amazing 4 evenly matched teams fighting for victories etc etc so it would be funny if that isn't the case at all and McLaren has a decent advantage of a few tenths.

So far, so good

Always feared it would be anti climatic with the hype. Unfortunately, both championships look done and dusted. To make it worse, rivals will focus on 26’ relatively early too, so am expecting a total blow out by Macca this year.

A little early to call it in my opinion. Australia is far from a representative circuit in its own, but the contrasting conditions between the days made it even more useless for drawing conclusions.

Hopefully China remains dry. It's quite a technical track and weak(er) cars will be exposed. Definitely will give us a better read.

[Alesi-J]

^ I agree. Thats what I was getting at. Lawson will beat the 2023/2024 version of Perez. Because Perez lost his head. But the previous poster was saying that Lawson won't do any better than 2024 Perez

Personally - I am late to the show on this discussion... but Lawson had the worst start imaginable. 2 or 3 like this - he'll be tossed by RB..