2024 Aston Martin | Aramco F1 Team

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AR3-GP wrote:
29 Oct 2024, 16:11
diffuser wrote:
29 Oct 2024, 15:05

Really why do you think Krack is doing a bad job?
Besides the obvious? :lol:
He's not doing the designing. he's a manager.

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Nikosar wrote:
29 Oct 2024, 16:44
I once heard James Vowles talk about his decision to drop Logan Sargeant. As long as the car wasn't performing, he had nothing to complain about, but when they started to have a car capable of scoring points and Sergent wasn't up to the job, the decision was to drop him.

You can't compare a driver with a TP, but you can draw the parallel.

Fallows and Krack arrived when there was no team structure and a lack of infrastructure.

- Krack's first objective is to build a team structure. Is he achieving the result ? Yes.

- Fallows' goal is to build a fast car (in collaboration with other departments). Others departments are still shaping as well of the infrastructure. It is therefore still too "early" to say whether he has done a good or a bad job.

Now by that being said, even if we say it is "early", we can still argue about the “smaller” F1 teams capable of producing better packages, and about Aston, which finds itself lost after having had almost two years to produce an improvement.

We can also argue about Lawrence's attempt to sign James Allison and Diego Tondi (perhaps they wanted to replace Fallows?). It's easy to let someone go, but they're going to need a better replacement.

I understand everyone's frustrations and I, like you, am, especially when you see how hard Alonso pushes himself every weekend... but that's the present and we're hoping for a better 2026.
I think you could make an argument with Fallows. Hard to find blame with anything Krack does. Krack and Lawrence are a tag team similar to Horner and Helmut Marko. Although, Horner isn't a willing participant in that tag team. He seems to have a upper hand over there now, still Marko has been forced upon him. On the AMR side, obviously the veto is with Lawrence. So if you have issue with Krack, you really have issue with Lawrence as well.

With regards to Fallows, I wouldn't be surprised if he's Newey's man. Don't forget Newey knows him well. They've been on the same team for over 10 years. So Fallows either get fired/re-positioned early in Newey tennure or he's there for the long haul.

I would think those guys (James Allison and Diego Tondi) would have been for Cardille's or Cowell's jobs.
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diffuser wrote:
29 Oct 2024, 20:24
AR3-GP wrote:
29 Oct 2024, 16:11
diffuser wrote:
29 Oct 2024, 15:05

Really why do you think Krack is doing a bad job?
Besides the obvious? :lol:
He's not doing the designing. he's a manager.
Yes but the manager must recruit and retain the people who will make the car faster and get rid of the people making it slower. They capitalized on the Red Bull fireworks but without that, I'm not sure I see where the team was going. In the case that Newey went to Ferrari, I didn't see anything that gave confidence that AMR would be going to compete for championships. Newey has a lot to clean up.
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AR3-GP wrote:
29 Oct 2024, 20:36
diffuser wrote:
29 Oct 2024, 20:24
AR3-GP wrote:
29 Oct 2024, 16:11


Besides the obvious? :lol:
He's not doing the designing. he's a manager.
Yes but the manager must recruit and retain the people who will make the car faster and get rid of the people making it slower. They capitalized on the Red Bull fireworks but without that, I'm not sure I see where the team was going. In the case that Newey went to Ferrari, I didn't see anything that gave confidence that AMR would be going to compete for championships. Newey has a lot to clean up.
So he and Lawrence have gone out and gotten Newey and Cardille ...bad choices ?

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diffuser wrote:
29 Oct 2024, 20:24
AR3-GP wrote:
29 Oct 2024, 16:11
diffuser wrote:
29 Oct 2024, 15:05

Really why do you think Krack is doing a bad job?
Besides the obvious? :lol:
He's not doing the designing. he's a manager.
Mismanagement is not out of the question.

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diffuser wrote:
29 Oct 2024, 20:41
AR3-GP wrote:
29 Oct 2024, 20:36
diffuser wrote:
29 Oct 2024, 20:24


He's not doing the designing. he's a manager.
Yes but the manager must recruit and retain the people who will make the car faster and get rid of the people making it slower. They capitalized on the Red Bull fireworks but without that, I'm not sure I see where the team was going. In the case that Newey went to Ferrari, I didn't see anything that gave confidence that AMR would be going to compete for championships. Newey has a lot to clean up.
So he and Lawrence have gone out and gotten Newey and Cardille ...bad choices ?

What they have organized for 2026 is impressive but 2024-2025 is disappointing.
A lion must kill its prey.

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AR3-GP wrote:
29 Oct 2024, 21:02
diffuser wrote:
29 Oct 2024, 20:41
AR3-GP wrote:
29 Oct 2024, 20:36


Yes but the manager must recruit and retain the people who will make the car faster and get rid of the people making it slower. They capitalized on the Red Bull fireworks but without that, I'm not sure I see where the team was going. In the case that Newey went to Ferrari, I didn't see anything that gave confidence that AMR would be going to compete for championships. Newey has a lot to clean up.
So he and Lawrence have gone out and gotten Newey and Cardille ...bad choices ?

What they have organized for 2026 is impressive but 2024-2025 is disappointing.
I have no idea right, I'm just talking out my a$$.

Maybe the 2024 - 2025 wasn't the finished team and they new it from jump. The plan was always to add 2 more guys to complete the team.

Obviously, from a results perspective, I can't argue with you.

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Antonio Lobato confirmed on a video what we already expected. Lobato said after Mexico test AM confirmed the Austin's package doesnt work fine and some parts from old kit works more well than new pieces. He said they still totally lostand they dont know why and correlaction with Wind tunnel isnt great. He did not rule out that between now and end of season some layoffs happen.

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Rikrikrik wrote:
30 Oct 2024, 00:33
He did not rule out that between now and end of season some layoffs happen.
Sometimes, too much is too much... Understandable if it happens sadly.