2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[bananapeel23]

The whole idea of ​​changing all the PU components does not make sense, because Sainz is not on pole, and our main rivals start from the front row and have a 21-point advantage and also a good car. The Reds do not have a dominant pace, and the field is quite dense at the moment, without a group of frankly slow cars. It will not be possible to start from the last row to overtake all of them like a hot knife through butter and take the top places on the podium. In WCC, Ferrari will take a place corresponding to the level of their car.
Of course anything is possible in a race, suddenly Norris's engine burns out, and Oscar's wing is broken at the start or he punctures his tire. But if you count on such an outcome, then there is no need to change Charles's engine.

Ferrari has infinite money and a new engine isn't included in the cost cap. He will want a lower wing level anyway to have any chance of overtaking on this God forsaken track, so a pitlane start is pretty much a given anyway. Vasseur pretty much indicated as much in the F1TV interview.

I'd be surprised if he didn't take a new ICE and turbo at the very least.

[jumpingfish]

Ferrari has infinite money and a new engine isn't included in the cost cap. He will want a lower wing level anyway to have any chance of overtaking on this God forsaken track, so a pitlane start is pretty much a given anyway. Vasseur pretty much indicated as much in the F1TV interview.

I'd be surprised if he didn't take a new ICE and turbo at the very least.

Well, we'll see if it pays off. I'd like to see Ferrari rip everyone apart, but what about Sainz? Will he finish ahead of the two McLarens?

[Sphere3758]

The whole idea of ​​changing all the PU components does not make sense, because Sainz is not on pole, and our main rivals start from the front row and have a 21-point advantage and also a good car. The Reds do not have a dominant pace, and the field is quite dense at the moment, without a group of frankly slow cars. It will not be possible to start from the last row to overtake all of them like a hot knife through butter and take the top places on the podium. In WCC, Ferrari will take a place corresponding to the level of their car.
Of course anything is possible in a race, suddenly Norris's engine burns out, and Oscar's wing is broken at the start or he punctures his tire. But if you count on such an outcome, then there is no need to change Charles's engine.

lol. Not sure why some people here are trying to save some dollars for Ferrari.
They will still make the most money of any team even if they finish P2 from what I understand

[yooogurt]

Ferrari has infinite money and a new engine isn't included in the cost cap.

Generally it is included in the budget, PU can be changed out of the budget only if it is broken, if it is working, then preventive replacement will be paid from the budget.

[Cs98]

It’s ridiculous how going wide in one turn is punished, while going wide in another turn is accepted. I’ve seen MANY cars run wide in the last corner. Max in Q2 as well.

Rules are rules...
Even if he gained no time, he exceeded track limits

Who are you talking to? I say if you punish first corner then punish final corner too!!!!!

They are monitoring the final corner.

[f1316]

Ok so here’s my (definitely not just wishful thinking ) prediction:

- one of the McLarens gets a poor start and is embroiled in a shunt, has to retire
- Sainz gets ahead of the other one and doesn’t pull away but it able to hold it off to take the win
- Leclerc does a Seb 2012 and, with the benefit of a safety car and some attrition from others, gets 3rd, winning us the WCC by a point (or on count back if the McLaren gets fastest lap)

Hey, I can dream!

[jumpingfish]

lol. Not sure why some people here are trying to save some dollars for Ferrari.
They will still make the most money of any team even if they finish P2 from what I understand

I'm not trying to save their money. I just don't see how a new engine in one of the cars will help both Leclerc and Sainz take the top podium places ahead of McLaren. This should have been done earlier, a complete engine change in Brazil.

Only a random event in the form of a technical retirement of the rivals, their crash accident or a violation of the rules on their part and DSQ will help here.

https://scuderiafans.com/f1-power-unit- ... from-2026/

Article says that there is a 95mln limit on engines, I don't know how much of that has been spent.

[Sphere3758]

lol. Not sure why some people here are trying to save some dollars for Ferrari.
They will still make the most money of any team even if they finish P2 from what I understand

I'm not trying to save their money. I just don't see how a new engine in one of the cars will help both Leclerc and Sainz take the top podium places ahead of McLaren. This should have been done earlier, a complete engine change in Brazil.

Only a random event in the form of a technical retirement of the rivals, their crash accident or a violation of the rules on their part and DSQ will help here.

https://scuderiafans.com/f1-power-unit- ... from-2026/

Article says that there is a 95mln limit on engines, I don't know how much of that has been spent.

Yes, but even with a technical issue on the Mclaren and they both retiring, Ferrari need Charles to score as many points as possible unless Carlos wins. It honestly is a no brainer.

[bananapeel23]

Ferrari has infinite money and a new engine isn't included in the cost cap.

Generally it is included in the budget, PU can be changed out of the budget only if it is broken, if it is working, then preventive replacement will be paid from the budget.

Leclerc has a broken engine from Canada so that shouldn't be an issue. Unless they have managed to repair it, that is.

I'm not trying to save their money. I just don't see how a new engine in one of the cars will help both Leclerc and Sainz take the top podium places ahead of McLaren. This should have been done earlier, a complete engine change in Brazil.

Only a random event in the form of a technical retirement of the rivals, their crash accident or a violation of the rules on their part and DSQ will help here.

https://scuderiafans.com/f1-power-unit- ... from-2026/

Article says that there is a 95mln limit on engines, I don't know how much of that has been spent.

The engine spending cap is about development. It also only applies from 2025.

A new engine is a same spec component and I can assure you that Ferrari has already manufactured a bunch of them, given the fact that the teams bin engines and only take the most perfect ones for the factory team, and they also need spares on hand in case an engine blows or something.

[jumpingfish]

A new engine is a same spec component and I can assure you that Ferrari has already manufactured a bunch of them, given the fact that the teams bin engines and only take the most perfect ones for the factory team, and they also need spares on hand in case an engine blows or something.

Well then remove all the reliability restrictions and let Charles do as many laps in qualifying mode as the tyres allow. The higher he finishes, the better. And not forget to load the car with sensors for the tests next week.

[yooogurt]

Leclerc has a broken engine from Canada so that shouldn't be an issue. Unless they have managed to repair it, that is.

That PU got fixed, at least for Friday/Saturday use. So it's not all that simple with budget cap and the amount of Ferrari's money doesn't matter.
ps.I hope of course there is money in the remaining budget to start from pitlane and alternative strategy, otherwise Charles will be stuck in drs train quickly and for a long.

[yooogurt]

On #Leclerc's PU I would like to point out one thing: the one-mapping rule came out as TD (at Monza 2020). Which means that the text is NOT public (unfortunately). Until today I thought (but not only me) that the rule only stipulated that the engine map parameters would remain constant between qualifying and the race, in analogy with the parc fermé. This weekend I heard about maps filed with the Federation and both Charles and #Vasseur talked about a delta not being huge potentially. Which is a surprise, because a Formula 1 PU that only has to do 300 km gives me the idea that it can push to unthinkable levels compared to one that has to do 8 whole weekends or so. That's clearly not the case but I can't be precise whether it's a matter of filed map or something else because, again, the TD text that forces the single map and regulates what we're talking about is not public and I don't know what it prescribes.
https://x.com/Fred__18/status/1865456571918286984

[chrisc90]

Doesnt all customer teams have to run the same PU mapping across the weekend though?

So making a super aggressive map for Charles last race would be out the window?

[bananapeel23]

Doesnt all customer teams have to run the same PU mapping across the weekend though?

So making a super aggressive map for Charles last race would be out the window?

I don’t think so. Sainz has been running higher engine mappings than Leclerc since Brazil. He has been consistently faster down the straights since Brazil.

I think the rules just state that the customer teams have to be allowed to use any engine mappings that the factory team can. Back in the day customer teams weren’t allowed to use the most aggressive mappings available.

I recall a story about Grosjean getting permission from Mercedes to use a Mercedes-only engine mode in Spa 2015 and promptly ended up on the podium. I don’t know if it’s really true though.

[JPower]

Will be tough for Sainz to reach a podium just given the pace of McLaren and Max in race simulations. Guess we'll find out.