2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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Luscion wrote:
06 Apr 2025, 08:36
Fakepivot wrote:
06 Apr 2025, 08:32
seeing charles and lewis take all the Pickup available on track made me laugh :D learnt there lesson i guess. good effort from Charles.. Lewis was bit disapointed himself, think his balance was off on medium? he struggled a lot there
Both Ferraris just didnt have the pace to do anything meaningful and not surprising considering they said they had to raise their ride height more than they wanted to here. Adami said over the radio they overbalanced the car protecting the front tires post race
Sounds like Lewis asked for this specifically. He needs to be taking more risks. He seems to retain the conservatism of Mercedes here, with the focus being on tyre life. Needs a new outlook on going racing.
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Russell's qualifying mistake and burning through his tires quicker made Ferrari look better this weekend. Mercedes certainly had the pace to be higher than Leclerc this weekend, they just didn't put it together in qualifying and then Russell couldn't get close in the race.

Had Antonelli been in Russell's position instead, we would've been under a lot more pressure.

Great weekend from Leclerc. It'll go under the radar on an already forgettable race, but he executed things almost perfectly this weekend. There were a few difficulties with the car during the race but you can see they've made a step forward on his side since Melbourne.

I don't know what to say about Hamilton. I need to watch his onboard again to hear all the radios because I missed a lot due to poor internet, I don't want to make a judgment without the full picture. The comfort he had in the Shanghai sprint has been nowhere to be found since then. My impression is he went for a less risky setup but this resulted in a car that wasn't particularly good nor comfortable to drive.

Ferrari being horrible in sector 1 shows all the issues they have with the current spec. All I can do is pray the Bahrain floor helps a little.

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Charles maximized this weekend and over-performed the true potential of the car, just like Max. Simply didn't have the margin to do anything more.

Ideally it should have been McL Merc RB Ferrari so Ham kind of got where he should get while Lec outperformed the car by qualifying well ahead.
Call a spade, a spade.

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ringo wrote:
06 Apr 2025, 08:44
Luscion wrote:
06 Apr 2025, 08:36
Fakepivot wrote:
06 Apr 2025, 08:32
seeing charles and lewis take all the Pickup available on track made me laugh :D learnt there lesson i guess. good effort from Charles.. Lewis was bit disapointed himself, think his balance was off on medium? he struggled a lot there
Both Ferraris just didnt have the pace to do anything meaningful and not surprising considering they said they had to raise their ride height more than they wanted to here. Adami said over the radio they overbalanced the car protecting the front tires post race
Sounds like Lewis asked for this specifically. He needs to be taking more risks. He seems to retain the conservatism of Mercedes here, with the focus being on tyre life. Needs a new outlook on going racing.
Risk what? There is nothing to risk…Lewis was on radio talking about how he was struggling with the rear.

So they overbalanced the car to protect the front and yet, still struggled with the rear. Look at the first sector times on the back end of the second stint…it’s unbelievably bad.
At one point, Hadjar was nearly a second faster in the first sector.

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ringo wrote:
06 Apr 2025, 08:44
Luscion wrote:
06 Apr 2025, 08:36
Fakepivot wrote:
06 Apr 2025, 08:32
seeing charles and lewis take all the Pickup available on track made me laugh :D learnt there lesson i guess. good effort from Charles.. Lewis was bit disapointed himself, think his balance was off on medium? he struggled a lot there
Both Ferraris just didnt have the pace to do anything meaningful and not surprising considering they said they had to raise their ride height more than they wanted to here. Adami said over the radio they overbalanced the car protecting the front tires post race
Sounds like Lewis asked for this specifically. He needs to be taking more risks. He seems to retain the conservatism of Mercedes here, with the focus being on tyre life. Needs a new outlook on going racing.
According to Ted on the notebook, Lewis was the one that requested the car go as low as possible in China so i dont think hes not taking risks
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If I start the season on a gamble, I’d rather continue on with that. It would be entertaining if they resolve the issues, but I fear it’s too late for everything.

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Both drivers seem pretty disappointed in their interviews, Leclerc more so. generally consensus from both is that the car is lacking pace

https://autoracer.it/it/vasseur-ferrari ... iornamenti
Fred -
The start of the season has certainly been disappointing for Ferrari which aspired to be competitive to fight for both world championships. Not all is lost, but certainly there is a need to reverse a negative trend and recover the ground lost to rivals. "Saying that we are 2-3 tenths behind in Qualifying and in the race I think is a fair representation of the moment. We can always do better, but that goes for everyone. We must work starting from this awareness" declared the Team Principal of the Prancing Horse who sets what the gap to recover with the best rivals is. In this sense, the support of the work being done in the factory, in the wind tunnel, will be essential, but Vasseur doesn't want to talk only about updates, convinced that the SF-25 is still capable of doing better and needs to be further understood. "Before bringing updates and improving performance, we need to solve the balance problems that are conditioning us. If we make the best use of the car, I think there is still potential to extract. We look race by race. We will certainly bring developments but others will too. We shouldn't expect to turn everything around in one day. In the next two races the goal is to exploit all the potential of the car".
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Leclerc:

There were some better things, yes. The feeling of the car was better, and now I have an idea of what I can do for the future in order to have more results like this. The main positive thing this weekend is that we couldn't do any better, so at least we can be satisfied about that.

But I can't smile still. Because we did everything perfectly today yet only ended P4 with not much pace compared to the front. It hurts when you do your best, the entire team did their part, but we're still two or three tenths from McLaren and Red Bull. This is just how it is.

The upgrades in Bahrain are very important. I'm going to Bahrain with a clearer vision than what we had in the tests, with a different direction suited for my driving style. I hope it pays off.
Vasseur:

Yesterday, we were two or three tenths behind them (McLaren) on a flying lap, and today, on average, two or three tenths even during the race. I think that paints a pretty accurate picture.

There wasn't a big performance difference between the medium and hard tires. In the end, degradation was nearly the same, as were the performances. That's why Lewis was able to match the pace of others despite being on the less favorable compound, and why he couldn't do much better than the others when he had the advantage with the Mediums against their Hards. The gap was very small, and that’s the best explanation
Hamilton:

The communication between us [him and Adami] was fine. He gave me all the information I needed. I just didn't have the pace today. It was a pretty lonely race but I still love driving this track.

It wasn't the best result. Obviously, qualifying is key this year, so I'll work hard to be further up next race.

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Fakepivot wrote:
06 Apr 2025, 08:32
seeing charles and lewis take all the Pickup available on track made me laugh :D learnt there lesson i guess. good effort from Charles.. Lewis was bit disapointed himself, think his balance was off on medium? he struggled a lot there
I had a disagreement with you the other day but I must say I was wrong. Lewis is really a has been driver. Ferrari definitely signed him for income rather than points success. I must concede...he has lost his speed over a lap and also over a race distance. Kimi antonelli beat him straight up...unfortunately the Ferrari is going to become like red bull soon...a single driver team where the other driver can only manage mediocrity...

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06 Apr 2025, 09:45
I had a disagreement with you the other day but I must say I was wrong. Lewis is really a has been driver. Ferrari definitely signed him for income rather than points success. I must concede...he has lost his speed over a lap and also over a race distance. Kimi antonelli beat him straight up...unfortunately the Ferrari is going to become like red bull soon...a single driver team where the other driver can only manage mediocrity...
Less than a month ago he won the sprint race. I get that today was a bad showing from him - as he admitted - but don't you guys think you're being a little overdramatic about one result?

If Hamilton is like this every weekend of the triple header then we can talk, but we aren't even halfway there yet #-o Let's wait more than one or two races to judge whether a driver is a "has been"... especially since the car is not competitive in the first place.

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Lewis post race interview
“I think I did the best I could today. Generally lacking performance compared all the cars that were up ahead of me.”

“We found something on the car that’s been underperforming for the last three races, so I’m really hoping when that’s fixed I’ll start getting a bit better results. I’m losing just over a tenth a lap with this issue we have. Hopefully by the next race it’ll be fixed.”

“Otherwise, qualifying clearly is really important. I’m not extracting the best out of the tyres so that’s something I will work on.”

I think they’re [the team] aware of it and they don’t know what’s caused/why – as I said, when the new component comes hopefully [the issue] will be gone and it’ll be the same across cars. Considering that, I’m relatively happy with the race pace that I did have, given what I had [going on].

“Otherwise, good performance from the team. Onwards and upwards.
Charles
https://autoracer.it/it/leclerc-sconsol ... p-giappone
At Ferrari, the debut of the first upgrade package is expected, which includes a new floor and other innovations. Leclerc relies heavily on this to start seeing the first real progress from the SF-25.
"As I've always said, whatever the starting point of this year, we must always look forward and try to make small steps in the right direction – declared the Monegasque – Let's say that the starting point hasn't been great after the first two races, but this is what we can do for now. We should be happy on one hand that we made a good performance to maximize the car's potential, but we shouldn't be happy that this brings us to P4. We need to push to the maximum, but I know that the team in Maranello is doing that and yes, starting from Bahrain I hope we'll have a bit more performance"."


Ferrari will try to solve the balance problems of the current car before bringing new updates to upcoming races. They want to completely solve these problems in Bahrain and Saudi Arabia. Afterwards, we will slowly start to see the first major updates.


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Jdn1327 wrote:
06 Apr 2025, 09:45
Fakepivot wrote:
06 Apr 2025, 08:32
seeing charles and lewis take all the Pickup available on track made me laugh :D learnt there lesson i guess. good effort from Charles.. Lewis was bit disapointed himself, think his balance was off on medium? he struggled a lot there
I had a disagreement with you the other day but I must say I was wrong. Lewis is really a has been driver. Ferrari definitely signed him for income rather than points success. I must concede...he has lost his speed over a lap and also over a race distance. Kimi antonelli beat him straight up...unfortunately the Ferrari is going to become like red bull soon...a single driver team where the other driver can only manage mediocrity...
Ignoring the nonsense in there. The last part, to be like red bull, you actually need a car with Grand Prix winning potential and a clarity of strategy and development.

For all the crazy stuff at Red Bull. That team has built a car that Max can work with, understand over a weekend and push. If Ferrari did that for just one of their drivers, then we have a discussion.
Until then, it’s nonsense.

Ferrari took a big swing over the winter and look to be on the verge of striking out. For baseball fans, let’s see if they can work the count back in their favour.

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Luscion wrote:
06 Apr 2025, 09:55

Ferrari will try to solve the balance problems of the current car before bringing new updates to upcoming races. They want to completely solve these problems in Bahrain and Saudi Arabia. Afterwards, we will slowly start to see the first major updates.

does this mean that they won't have upgrades in Bahrain and Saudi ? because everyone is talking about a new floor for Bahrain.

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I must have seen other race than you guys here. What i saw is the 1st 5 running in safe mode and noone was able to really close to the front runner because he would had destroy his tyres. The differences no matter if it is 1sec or 7sec nothing has to do with the car abilities than to stay behind to save yourself.

For this i can say only "Well done Pirelli, well done FIA for this joke of racing"

They don't even respect the fans where today it was full house of 255.000 people watching slot car racing in one line.
I've had it with this nonsense really.

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Lol

If charles was writting his statements here, you guys would pile on him like you do on us and call us doomers.

Its clear that he looks defeated, the worst in his career, he has such a high hopes for this years car.
Ferrar looks lost once again and it seems they will switch on to next year