2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[Jdn1327]

You would think he'd adapt a bit to more sim work given all the press around Max constantly doing sim work, sim racing, etc. Especially entering a new team, new engine, new gear box, new software for deployment, etc., etc.

He's there for the money...lol why put in extra work if you're gonna get paid for the bare minimum anyway?

[AMK]

Lewis just need seat time, and more consultation with the engineers to understand how to gel with the Ferrari PU, and to know what the car needs to optimize the cornering and find pace.

Tyre prep is another thing, but we cannot see this from telemetry unfortunately.

but this is something he could have learnt and practiced in simulator no?

So all are saying Lewis need time, becoz Ferrari has different setups, engine modes and all stuff new. And Lewis not able to master it. Is Lewis the first driver to change a team? Others all cope with new systems. But the world champion is slow is coping up with new world. Wow

[Cs98]

Honestly these Italian articles just remind me of how it was at Merc. Always a bunch of half-baked theories about how the car is limiting Lewis' performance in this way or that way. It would be a mistake for Ferrari to go down the route that Merc did and invest a bunch of time and energy solving for "car issues" that probably have less to do with the car and more to do with an aging driver. You have a brilliant Leclerc in the team who is consistently delivering, time to give him Schumacher status and just work to give him whatever he wants.

[ScuderiaLeo]

Honestly these Italian articles just remind me of how it was at Merc. Always a bunch of half-baked theories about how the car is limiting Lewis' performance in this way or that way. It would be a mistake for Ferrari to go down the route that Merc did and invest a bunch of time and energy solving for "car issues" that probably have less to do with the car and more to do with an aging driver. You have a brilliant Leclerc in the team who is consistently delivering, time to give him Schumacher status and just work to give him whatever he wants.

I don't think Ferrari would do that. The team's difficulty in building the best car isn't because they're favoring a driver, it's because they just can't make the best car... a "skill issue" as my niece would say...

Nothing about what the team or Leclerc said indicates they're aiming to drastically change the car's current balance, only that they need pace and a wider operating window. So I'm not too worried about this.

[f1isgood]

Ferrari didn't make a good car but Hamilton is also farther from Leclerc than Sainz was. Both can be true. Indeed, this move was never about performance alone. It was about money and Hamilton's marketing is worth the money they spent.

[Cs98]

Honestly these Italian articles just remind me of how it was at Merc. Always a bunch of half-baked theories about how the car is limiting Lewis' performance in this way or that way. It would be a mistake for Ferrari to go down the route that Merc did and invest a bunch of time and energy solving for "car issues" that probably have less to do with the car and more to do with an aging driver. You have a brilliant Leclerc in the team who is consistently delivering, time to give him Schumacher status and just work to give him whatever he wants.

I don't think Ferrari would do that. The team's difficulty in building the best car isn't because they're favoring a driver, it's because they just can't make the best car... a "skill issue" as my niece would say...

Nothing about what the team or Leclerc said indicates they're aiming to drastically change the car's current balance, only that they need pace and a wider operating window. So I'm not too worried about this.

The point is that if you are trying to solve "issues" with feedback from a driver that is having a crisis of self-confidence, you'll just end up chasing your own tail not knowing what is a car issue and what is a driving issue. You have to listen to the feedback from the guy who is performing well because they are the ones pushing the car to its real limit. In this case Charles, and if he likes the balance then you just need to find performance.

[ringo]

Lewis just need seat time, and more consultation with the engineers to understand how to gel with the Ferrari PU, and to know what the car needs to optimize the cornering and find pace.

Tyre prep is another thing, but we cannot see this from telemetry unfortunately.

but this is something he could have learnt and practiced in simulator no?

He needs to get over himself and do what it takes.
The older drivers get motion sick. Shumacher didnt like sims either. But technology has moved on a lot since then.
Lewis has no more TPC days. His only hope is the sim and some motion sickness pills.
Hamilton has a sense of entitlement. He assumed in the past he had everything covered and could skimp on the dedication that other drivers commit to outside of the track.
Now's he's eating dust from Charles' skid blocks. He has to put in the work if he is to survive the season.

[ringo]

I think there is this call to jump and slam the money and marketing button.
It's all over the media and in the threads.
People want Hamilton out of the Ferrari seat ASAP. Ralf Shumacher suggesting the guy should retire after 2025.
It's amazing how much higher the scrutiny is over this move.
Lewis still has the only win and pole for Ferrari this year. And I have a feeling he's going to get the next win before Charles if the chance presents itself. He is still a winning machine.

The season is long folks. A lot of these conclusions being drawn now will look silly in 6 months time.
Just let the guy paint the masterpiece. It's coming together. You cannot see it now, but it's loading.
The car needs to improve and it will with feedback from both drivers.

[SoulPancake13]

I think there is this call to jump and slam the money and marketing button.
It's all over the media and in the threads.
People want Hamilton out of the Ferrari seat ASAP. Ralf Shumacher suggesting the guy should retire after 2025.
It's amazing how much higher the scrutiny is over this move.
Lewis still has the only win and pole for Ferrari this year. And I have a feeling he's going to get the next win before Charles if the chance presents itself. He is still a winning machine.

The season is long folks. A lot of these conclusions being drawn now will look silly in 6 months time.
Just let the guy paint the masterpiece. It's coming together. You cannot see it now, but it's loading.
The car needs to improve and it will with feedback from both drivers.

It was a sprint. Not an actual race. Nothing right now shows that Lewis is anywhere near contention for a race win over Charles right now. He is losing out in every type of corner, what is the excuse now?

[ringo]

I think there is this call to jump and slam the money and marketing button.
It's all over the media and in the threads.
People want Hamilton out of the Ferrari seat ASAP. Ralf Shumacher suggesting the guy should retire after 2025.
It's amazing how much higher the scrutiny is over this move.
Lewis still has the only win and pole for Ferrari this year. And I have a feeling he's going to get the next win before Charles if the chance presents itself. He is still a winning machine.

The season is long folks. A lot of these conclusions being drawn now will look silly in 6 months time.
Just let the guy paint the masterpiece. It's coming together. You cannot see it now, but it's loading.
The car needs to improve and it will with feedback from both drivers.

It was a sprint. Not an actual race. Nothing right now shows that Lewis is anywhere near contention for a race win over Charles right now. He is losing out in every type of corner, what is the excuse now?

A sprint is a race. Just marketed differently. There is literally no difference between driving a Grand Prix and driving a Sprint. The Sprint actually has a longer stint length than any single stint in the Grand Prix; be it with half the amount of fuel.

[Chuckjr]

I’m pretty convinced Lewis is deathly afraid of totaling the car. Until he is willing to total his Ferrari to find the limit, he will not find it.

[bluechris]

I’m pretty convinced Lewis is deathly afraid of totaling the car. Until he is willing to total his Ferrari to find the limit, he will not find it.

True but this is age thing also no? I mean in my age i drive different on the limit than when i was 20 years old and it's not only experience that alter this.

[LM10]

What is long game to Lewis at this point? 2 years? 3 years max? Do you realistically think he came to Ferrari not believing he'd be trying for an 8th starting this year?

Yes, I think that Lewis did not primarily believe he’d be trying for an 8th starting this year. He’s realistic and experienced enough to know that a. he was going to need time to adapt to the team and b. Ferrari, even in case of building the fastest car, was most probably not going to dominate in the last year of these regulations. Only given a dominant car he would have been sure of having a shot at the title, but even then he was always going to have a top-driver as a teammate while adapting to a new team on top of it.

That’s why I think that similar to when he came to Mercedes from McLaren, he might have been given the information that Ferrari is going to be strong next year.
Well, at least I surely hope so.

[j_ste]

I’m pretty convinced Lewis is deathly afraid of totaling the car. Until he is willing to total his Ferrari to find the limit, he will not find it.

I agree with this completely. Genuinely I think the last time Lewis tried to push the car beyond its limits in qually, was Austria 2022…. Ofcourse you don’t want to go beyond but you have to risk it every now and then


I was looking at the telemetry of Max’s out lap in Saudi. Even on his outlap, he takes the corners so much faster than Lewis. Maybe that’s a car related thing but it was shocking how different it was.

[j_ste]

I think there is this call to jump and slam the money and marketing button.
It's all over the media and in the threads.
People want Hamilton out of the Ferrari seat ASAP. Ralf Shumacher suggesting the guy should retire after 2025.
It's amazing how much higher the scrutiny is over this move.
Lewis still has the only win and pole for Ferrari this year. And I have a feeling he's going to get the next win before Charles if the chance presents itself. He is still a winning machine.

The season is long folks. A lot of these conclusions being drawn now will look silly in 6 months time.
Just let the guy paint the masterpiece. It's coming together. You cannot see it now, but it's loading.
The car needs to improve and it will with feedback from both drivers.

It was a sprint. Not an actual race. Nothing right now shows that Lewis is anywhere near contention for a race win over Charles right now. He is losing out in every type of corner, what is the excuse now?

The Sprint is different but it’s still a race. As evidenced by Max winning so many of them. As is the qualifying for the sprint race.

Nobody is out there just dossing around.