Most peculiar suspensions.

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Tim.Wright
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Ah yes, hadn't lurked at gurney flap for a while.

And behold, a De Dion:
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hardingfv32
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In the photo above, what would you say is the purpose of the line/hose from the trans tail section to the axle tube?

Brian

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hardingfv32 wrote:In the photo above, what would you say is the purpose of the line/hose from the trans tail section to the axle tube?

Brian
I can only guess, but maybe they use the rotational speeds of both axles to limit the differential. At least there's a connection to both axles. Any experts for the old cars here?

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I'd be as crass, or ignorant, that it might be circulating lube fore the U-joints?
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xpensive wrote:I'd be as crass, or ignorant, that it might be circulating lube fore the U-joints?
It is most likely a full oil system for the transaxle, including the diff and gear train.

Axel31
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Hi there!
i can't really figure out how to connect carbon fiber rod to a u joint in my steering column for fsae car.
Your suggestions would be really helpful
thanks

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Axel31 wrote:Hi there!
i can't really figure out how to connect carbon fiber rod to a u joint in my steering column for fsae car.
Your suggestions would be really helpful
thanks
Going to need more information than just that buddy. What orientation are you trying to connect them? Is it a high stress application? The more information the better

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Axel31 wrote:Hi there!
i can't really figure out how to connect carbon fiber rod to a u joint in my steering column for fsae car.
Your suggestions would be really helpful
thanks
Wrong thread, you have to look elsewheres for free information like that.
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marcush.
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If you happen to have no idea how to connect these bits and pieces -I´d advise to step back and ask yourself if your choice of material was wise....
On a serious note:formula 1 does connect cf tubes to metal componentry by means of bonded in inserts:

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-picture borrowed from a cool thread here on this very forum -thanks brianG!!-

I think it is a very bad idea to use just a constant diameter tube to connect to an insert though ...you will always do a lousy job
at spreading the loads .
CF tube ? is it a pulltrusion ,a laid up prepreg , or a sock ,you are very unspecific here .You come across as :You seem to think CF is something you could buy conveniently at a hardware shop cut to length and some guy somewhere knows the 10cent bolt which is doing the job for a steering column...

I might quote a former(?)lead stress engineer(steve o´rourke) of williams GP on usage of CF :
It is an intriguing material ,yes -but honestly I would never use it if there was an alternative for our purposes .So in other words -if every other design would come out heavier to carry the design loads only then they use CF !
I tend to believe a FSAE car will not gain a measureable advantage by using CF just for the sake of using it.Lightweight starts with reducing parts count ...so think about a solution how to get rid of :u-joints,bolts, column, etc... :roll:
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Shrieker
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Ciro Pabón wrote:Williams active controlled dynamics, 1991-1992. You have to watch this video: eerie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjbc1tmKi6g
Wow, I never quite imagined it could actually move by so much !!
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http://imgur.com/a/B3UhL#30
http://imgur.com/a/B3UhL#31

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Chaparral 2H DeDion rear suppension;

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I cant believe anyone has not posted this:

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Blackout
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The new Merc Y shaped front lower 'wishbone' reminds me of the FW-16 rear suspensions. But i'm not sure; did that Williams have an Y shaped upper arm at the rear, like the Merc, or was it just a normal triangle with a larger trailing part ? what do you think ?

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No triangle here
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Here you go….Didn't see this every day...
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