mike wrote:i think autogyro mean that engineering is lacking creativity these days, and since math is a knowledge and creativity is more important than knowledge.
autogyro means that all he has in an interesting idea that he claim is absolutely awsome, all we have to do is try and work out how and if it works for him, so that he can believe himself and patent this system and perhaps build it in real life.
I'd have to disagree really. The fact that engineering is no longer a 'suck it and see' discipline like it was back in the day is progress, not a bad thing. Fact is in the modern era only 'ideas' that have true merit are developed does not mean a lack of creativity.
Simulation and virtual prototyping had seen the traditional prototype off for the most part. You can have ideas and skeches all you want, back in the day you'd have to make it to see if it works. Now rigoruos feasibility studies and simulations are run BEFORE seeing if its worth making.
It's been common knowledge that professional engineers have ALWAYS needed incredibly high mathematics skills. The only people I have experienced who call themselves 'engineers', that actively distrust people who apply a scientific approach to development as opposed to a practical approach, are all old time served machinists who for some reason don't want call themselves a machinist.
They have the attitude that becuase 'them academics with their bloody compOOOters' can't operate a machine and make it themselves they don't know squat. When infact the two jobs are complimentary to each other.
At the end of the day, for
autogyro's 'idea' (if it indeed exists, of which there is no proof what so ever) to be made by ANYONE, it'll go through the hands of the man with the calculator first.
All I am asking for is, don't make --- up. Unless you have figures to justify the fantasitc claims that the device has better efficiency, it's all just hot air from an old blowhard. If you claim somthing is awsome to a room full of engineers, they ARE going to ask you why, and the ARE going to ask you to prove it. If you continually dodge their questions and deflect they ARE going to call bullshit on you.
Autogyro has demonstrated NOTHING with regards to his 'idea', no proof, no figures, not even a coherent description. If you don't want to duscuss it, why bring it up all the time?
/thread right there as that was a post contraing epic truths.
