Red Bull RB15

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since the Mclaren honda days, it was reported in paddock that it had the lowest COG and weight... and i belive it. they with the honda engine were an agile car, very strong in cornering compared to when they switched to renault. It could be one of the causes...

TwanV
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thanks Bruno, I was unaware of that. :)

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And look at this hmmm, not a coincidence

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gandharva
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Why are so much people afraid of cooling issues? Look at the huge gap between exhaust and engine cover:
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That Honda (still) has plenty of space to breathe! :D

This is what the Renault engine got last year:
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So, I'd say wait for the start of the european season. Then Newey will tighten it up. ;)

Enstone
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This extreme package with few cooling will leads to techical problems... as it was the case during the previous years.

But it's a part of RB DNA and racing philosophy !

I felt in love for those mirrors... masterpiece 8)
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dsdevries
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gandharva wrote:
13 Feb 2019, 16:58
Why are so much people afraid of cooling issues? Look at the huge gap between exhaust and engine cover:
That Honda (still) has plenty of space to breathe! :D

This is what the Renault engine got last year:
So, I'd say wait for the start of the european season. Then Newey will tighten it up. ;)
It's a matter of physics and where the air is released instead of how much. The size of the air-outputs must be equal to the size of the air-intakes, and the air inside the body must flow with the least amount of resistance. Apparently, the Honda requires more cooling to the top of the engine and less from the sidepods. So it makes sense to also move the air-outputs higher up.

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turbof1 wrote:
13 Feb 2019, 15:42
Vasconia wrote:
13 Feb 2019, 15:40
So narrow in the end, how Will Honda work with such a small place? the design is as aggressive and complex as we could expect.
Well they are running. No reports of it bogging down so far. It's also possible they increase bodywork width afterwards to increase venting of the hot air.
We will see what happens when they have to be competitive through the whole weekend. I am just curious after the many problems Honda had with the narrow back of the McLaren. Hopefully for the F1 the situation will be different this time.

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Good chance that Honda still uses their water cooled inter cooler which can be tighter packed then the large air to air inter coolers.

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Blackout
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We need a top view for those sidepods and the bargeboard wings (they look larger with a delta shape)

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Jolle wrote:
13 Feb 2019, 17:30
Good chance that Honda still uses their water cooled inter cooler which can be tighter packed then the large air to air inter coolers.
Since when Honda uses a water-air intecooler? AFAIK they only use air-air (a single one between 2015 and 2017 and one in each sidepod in 2018.

mika vs michael
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W10 looks tighter on the rear...
"It is necessary to relax your muscles when you can. Relaxing your brain is fatal." Stirling Moss

I tried this and I had understeer, I tried that and I had oversteer, at the end of the corner I just run out of talent

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motobaleno
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mika vs michael wrote:
13 Feb 2019, 17:57
W10 looks tighter on the rear...
A nice post on mercedes W10 3d seems to confirm that. not only on vertical proportion that is evident but also in horizontally

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mika vs michael wrote:
13 Feb 2019, 17:57
W10 looks tighter on the rear...
It better is with that monstrous sidepod air inlet!

Or... just maybe... it could be completely different aero philosophies?

Avocado
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The car looks amazing but with Honda in the back? Never ever.