Formula E

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noname wrote:
WhiteBlue wrote:Variable geometry turbos were also developed in racing and will play a role in road cars.
It was other way round. VNTs were selling in huge numbers, mainly in the commercial market, long before they appeared at Le Mans.

"1991: Fiat puts a VNT™ turbo in the Croma, matching it to a 1.9L direct injection diesel engine."
http://turbo.honeywell.com/why-choose-h ... ry-firsts/
http://www.garrettbulletin.com/techcorner/544
http://www.turbomaster.info/eng/bulletins.php?id=19
Ok, I stand corrected. So Nissan Diesel did a truck engine in 1989. But there can be a good synergy if the rules are done in such a way that efficiency is promoted. That is still my believe.
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WhiteBlue wrote:Ok, I stand corrected. So Nissan Diesel did a truck engine in 1989. But there can be a good synergy if the rules are done in such a way that efficiency is promoted. That is still my believe.
I do not want to even try neglecting this believe. Audi, mentioned just few posts back, is a great example how it can be done.

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I didn’t mean to use fighting word; maybe commercial promotion would be better than green wash. And I don’t object to commercialization since without the money it brings racing would be greatly diminished. However, IMO, it’s innovation in F-1 has been diminished and shunted into dead-end areas by rules seemingly taken from class sailboat racing. If anything the engineers now are the best ever but are not permitted to do anything exciting. Break-through engineering such as Cosworth did with a humble Ford plugger engine and carried into F-1 engines isn’t to be found today. These innovations found their way broadly into improved road engines.

The thought of opening the F-E rules to allow supercaps was intended to allow for a bit of pioneering work. Though it’s not everybody’s cup of tea, I’m more interested in what hasn’t been done yet than embroidering ad absurdum on the same old theme. Opening things up a bit might even bring in a bit of money from disciplines other than batteries.

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FE for the moment is trying to encourage battery development.
I agree that other energy storage devices need to be developed much further in racing as well as for the road.
FE however has to remain carefully controlled so as to maintain a fairly level performance base.
Without that base in the early stages, there will not be enough potential to encourage teams and sponsors to compete.
The FIA has a difficult task ahead as electric racing inevitably takes hold.
I believe the regulations will remain dynamic in a similar way to the early days of F1.
There will certainly need to be some form of teams association for balance.

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McLaren Electronic Systems will provide the electric engine, transmission and electronics for Formula E race cars.
NextgenAuto wrote:McLaren Electronic Systems Limited today announced that it will provide the electric engine, transmission and electronics for cars that will participate in the FIA’s exciting new Formula E race series.

McLaren will be a key partner of Spark Racing Technology, which is led by Frédéric Vasseur and is dedicated to the creation and assembly of the electric cars participating in the FIA World Championship Formula E.

McLaren and Spark Racing Technology will work together to design and assemble high performance, highly efficient electric cars which will soon be racing around cities across the globe.

The FIA Formula E Championship will be launched in 2014. It will solely feature electric powered cars, will run exclusively in major international cities and it has all the assets needed to reach a worldwide audience. As well as being an exciting new urban race series, it will facilitate the development of important new electric car technology which could one day feature in mainstream road cars and be of significant benefit to the environment.

Martin Whitmarsh, CEO McLaren Group and Team Principal of Vodafone McLaren Mercedes: “I’m a passionate believer in the role that motorsport can play in showcasing and spearheading the development of future technologies, and regard the Formula E concept as an exciting innovation for global motorsport. McLaren has worked with Frédéric Vasseur for many years, and our association has been very successful. Working together in Formula E, McLaren’s world-class technology and Spark Racing Technology’s expert knowledge will combine to allow both companies to stay at the forefront of technical innovation and hopefully open up great opportunities for the racing cars of tomorrow.”

Frédéric Vasseur: “I am proud and happy to give birth to this project that is innovative and extremely rewarding for a company both technically and philosophically. Personally, I can write a new chapter, regardless of my other ventures in motorsport. Confidence and commitment from our partner McLaren is a guarantee of quality and reliability without which this project would not have been possible. The association with a globally recognized car manufacturer is definitely the right way to go. Sport and society are evolving and Spark Racing Technology is proud to be the pioneer and leader in the new field of electric cars that will revolutionize the motor racing industry and attitude.”

Whether it be in the construction of the innovative and highly efficient McLaren Technology Centre or the use of lightweight carbon fibre structures in the 12C sports car, McLaren has developed and implemented a range of innovative technologies that improve environmental performance. This commitment to innovation and the environment enabled Vodafone McLaren Mercedes to be the first Formula 1 team to retain the Carbon Trust Standard and to be declared ‘carbon neutral’.

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Autosport wrote:allara will work on the chassis for the new Formula E championship, the series has announced.

The Italian firm will join forces with the series' technical operation Spark Racing Technology on the cars, which are set to start racing in 2014.

Spark Racing Technology president and boss of the ART Grand Prix outfit Frederic Vasseur welcomed the collaboration.

"I have worked with Dallara for over 20 years and I have all the respect in the world for [company president] Gian Paolo Dallara," he said.

"It is with great pleasure that we will join Dallara and benefit from his expertise and know-how, something that will be essential for this new and exciting adventure."

Vasseur has worked particularly closely with Dallara in Formula 3, GP2 and GP3, winning championships in all of those series.

Dallara added: "We have been competing with Frederic for more than 20 years and he brought our cars to victory in many prestigious championships.

"We are looking forward to facing this new challenge with great enthusiasm and considering our past success together, we are confident that our combined expertise will be key to achieving the demanding targets in this brand new field of motorsport."

Dallara joins McLaren as a Formula E technical partner.
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Forza wrote:
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Is that seriously a proposed FE Car? That looks like an IndyCar LOL!

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See who is the designer of the sketch and then you'll see why it looks like an IndyCar
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wesley123 wrote:See who is the designer of the sketch and then you'll see why it looks like an IndyCar
Despite that I'm surprised the fendered formula design's being pushed outside of Indy.

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lizardfolk wrote:
wesley123 wrote:See who is the designer of the sketch and then you'll see why it looks like an IndyCar
Despite that I'm surprised the fendered formula design's being pushed outside of Indy.
For an open wheeled electric car it does not come even close aerodynamically.

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I assumed it'll still be very different but how much of a difference is there between the IndyCar and the FE proposal really?

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sounds like a large RC car
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I suppose it's too much to ask for hot-swappable battery packs?