2012 Indian Grand Prix - Buddh

[raymondu999]

Finally, going for my first ever GP weekend!

Have a great time mate!

Has anyone noticed any trends for which cars have a relative advantage on which tires? I suppose cars that chew tires prefer the hard tires but apart from that it doesn't seem like there are any mismatches similar to Ferrari and hard tires last year

Even though the tires are different this time maybe we will see a similar pecking order to Korea

Food for thought:

Based on the compounds used for the rest of the season and winners at races with those compounds (listed with races)

India: Hard/Soft
- Maldonaldo (Spain)
- Webber (Great Britain)
- Vettel (Japan)

Abu Dhabi: Medium/Soft
- Button (Australia)
- Rosberg (China)
- Vettel (Bahrain)
- Alonso (Europe - Valencia)
- Alonso (Germany - Hockenheim)
- Hamilton (Hungary)

United States/Brazil : Hard/Medium
- Alonso (Malaysia)
- Button (Belgium)
- Hamilton (Italy)

Button has won on hard, medium and soft
Alonso has won on medium and soft (he never put the hard tyre on in Malaysia)
Vettel has won on hard, medium, soft and supersoft
Webber has won on hard, soft and supersoft
Hamilton has won on hard, medium, soft and supersoft

Rosberg has won on medium and soft
Maldonado has won on hard and soft

[alogoc]

Is this not the worst layout after Abu-Dhabi?

Again Tilke had no issues with land boundaries and still comes with this

what! the track is fantastic to drive! the most old school from Tilke!

@LewisHamilton: "Buddh is different: has more in common with a great track like Spa than with any number of the more modern places"

[FW17]

@LewisHamilton: "Buddh is different: has more in common with a great track like Spa than with any number of the more modern places"

Vodafone mouth piece.

India is an emerging market for all brands in F1, that you cannot take drivers to be honest about anything.

To be honest, after korea, F1 in Delhi must be a dream both in terms of track and off track activities.

[alogoc]

@LewisHamilton: "Buddh is different: has more in common with a great track like Spa than with any number of the more modern places"

Vodafone mouth piece.

India is an emerging market for all brands in F1, that you cannot take drivers to be honest about anything.

To be honest, after korea, F1 in Delhi must be a dream both in terms of track and off track activities.

Bahrain and China sucks! India is good!

[ds.raikkonen]

Have a great time mate!

Thanks man! I will, this year's race is so much more significant than last year's. And with the return of Raikkonen, I am shivering with anticipation to catch a glimpse of him overtaking a few places at the start like he almost always does! FP1,2, Sat prac, qualy and race, won't miss a second of the action!

Vodafone mouth piece.

Well, we ll find out soon enough. All the guys had good things to say about the circuit, can't be all down to marketing etc. Let's see how many overtaking opportunities are actually grabbed by the followers during the race. 2 DRS zones, one on the main straight. I ll be watching in the Premium Stand North, just opposite to T1 and overlooking T2. However, if the dust issue has nt been resolved, few will dare to go off the racing line after 3 laps. Last year, Alonso tried to go round the outside of JB and was caught out with the green-ness of the outside of T1. Perhaps the only trick might be locking your brakes on the inside and praying that the car in front does not turn in. Else, something resembling Massa-Hamilton coming together might happen. (And Blackadder's superb reaction to that )

[siskue2005]

I agree that there is not a desert, but there was a lot of dust on the track due to a more arid climate compared to typical F1 circuits.

Maybe the track was used for First time, that's why there was so much dust. And this is their first time hosting an international event of raicing. There was a lot of construction dust which they didn't anticipate.
This time they have specialist from abudabhi who apply some sort of chemical on track which would clear the dust, apparently that's why abudabhi track is so clean even with a desert around compared to Bahrain and India

[raymondu999]

This time they have specialist from abudabhi who apply some sort of chemical on track which would clear the dust, apparently that's why abudabhi track is so clean even with a desert around compared to Bahrain and India

To my memory, in Bahrain the runoff is sprayed down with some form of silicon-based gel which prevents it flying over the circuit. Though I could be imagining things I guess

[Redragon]

@LewisHamilton: "Buddh is different: has more in common with a great track like Spa than with any number of the more modern places"

Vodafone mouth piece.

India is an emerging market for all brands in F1, that you cannot take drivers to be honest about anything.

To be honest, after korea, F1 in Delhi must be a dream both in terms of track and off track activities.

So in that case, we should follow what Raikonnen have to say about the circuit

[raymondu999]

I still remember Raikkonen at a Ferrari World interview - Kimi, how do you find the new Yas Marina circuit?

"The first sector's ok. The rest is pretty sh*t"

[siskue2005]

This time they have specialist from abudabhi who apply some sort of chemical on track which would clear the dust, apparently that's why abudabhi track is so clean even with a desert around compared to Bahrain and India

To my memory, in Bahrain the runoff is sprayed down with some form of silicon-based gel which prevents it flying over the circuit. Though I could be imagining things I guess

Yeah I think that is what they are spraying
I might have misinterpreted it

[ds.raikkonen]

I still remember Raikkonen at a Ferrari World interview - Kimi, how do you find the new Yas Marina circuit?

"The first sector's ok. The rest is pretty sh*t"

I remember JC telling people about Kimi's views about various circuits. He also said that there were other circuits that were s@#% as well. I wonder which those circuits might be? Hungaroring (fun only when its wet, which is rare), Hockenheim (have nt seen any exciting races there for the past few years), Monaco and Monza too IMO (processional racing guaranteed, again, except for when they re wet)

[zztopless]

Well, we ll soon find out, won't we? Let's see how many overtaking opportunities are actually grabbed by the followers during the race. 2 DRS zones, one on the main straight. I ll be watching in the Premium Stand North, just opposite to T1 and overlooking T2. However, if the dust issue has nt been resolved, few will dare to go off the racing line after 3 laps. Last year, Alonso tried to go round the outside of JB and was caught out with the green-ness of the outside of T1. Perhaps the only trick might be locking your brakes on the inside and praying that the car in front does not turn in. Else, something resembling Massa-Hamilton coming together might happen. (And Blackadder's superb reaction to that )

This wasn't really possible last year as it was so dirty off line, but if the efforts to clean up the track do make a difference this year then having the first detection point before turn 15 should give cars that are good through the medium and high speed corners (and perhaps lacking in top speed) the chance to overtake into turn 16, then use their DRS to pull away on the pit straight. This prevents scenarios like what happened with Webber and Hamilton last year at Korea (hence the movement of the detection point for Korea this year). Whether it's a good thing is debatable. I think it is a good thing, as it gives the faster car a chance to pull away and opens up an extra overtaking point, but I'm also a RBR fan...

Thoughts?

[Vasconia]

I still remember Raikkonen at a Ferrari World interview - Kimi, how do you find the new Yas Marina circuit?

"The first sector's ok. The rest is pretty sh*t"

Awesome, F1 needs more people like KImi, he speaks clearly when is needed.

About the Tilke Tracks I like Malaysia, India seems to be good(but we have only seen one race), the rest mehhh....(I was expecting more from Korea but the dyr races have not been very interesting.

[CHT]

I still remember Raikkonen at a Ferrari World interview - Kimi, how do you find the new Yas Marina circuit?

"The first sector's ok. The rest is pretty sh*t"

Awesome, F1 needs more people like KImi, he speaks clearly when is needed.

About the Tilke Tracks I like Malaysia, India seems to be good(but we have only seen one race), the rest mehhh....(I was expecting more from Korea but the dyr races have not been very interesting.

I think the best tilke track is still malaysia and turkey. Many of the other tilke track seem to go overboard in trying to duplicate sections of different classic circuit. But the problem is when the track and gradient is overly man made, it become soulless. perhaps sometime you just need some imperfection to make the track perfect for racing

[Vasconia]

I still remember Raikkonen at a Ferrari World interview - Kimi, how do you find the new Yas Marina circuit?

"The first sector's ok. The rest is pretty sh*t"

Awesome, F1 needs more people like KImi, he speaks clearly when is needed.

About the Tilke Tracks I like Malaysia, India seems to be good(but we have only seen one race), the rest mehhh....(I was expecting more from Korea but the dyr races have not been very interesting.

I think the best tilke track is still malaysia and turkey. Many of the other tilke track seem to go overboard in trying to duplicate sections of different classic circuit. But the problem is when the track and gradient is overly man made, it become soulless. perhaps sometime you just need some imperfection to make the track perfect for racing

True, or simply that sometimes more simple tracks are better, one of the problems with those tracks is that they try to cover all styles, it seems that for a Tilke track it is mandatory to have long stright, a section of slow and fast cornes, sometimes combined in the same order, its so predictable and boring!.

Take a look to Montreal or Monzas layouts, they seem to have a more simple design but they are exciting and demanding. All the track follows the same coherence not combining everything but reaching nothing as it happens in modern tracks.