2013 Canadian GP - Montreal

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Another option for weather tracking:

http://weather.gc.ca/city/pages/qc-147_metric_e.html

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scotty86 wrote:Assuming a dry race, i actually think we might see some drivers go for a 3 stop race this year, depending on safety car timing (surely we'll get at least one as per usual?!).
A safety car helps prolong tyre life - which helps the 2-stoppers. However, stopping at the safety car moment would be a big boon. I'm not sure that there will be many safety cars though. Other than 2011 (which was a hell of a lottery race) - Canada has been entirely SC-free in the no-refuel formula. I think the fact that overtaking IS possible means that the drivers are less punchy, causing less incident. Also, given tyre management, I think less drivers are really inching towards the walls during the race. After all, if you're going to reduce the edge to which you're pushing - why not reduce it where there is the highest risk factor?
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The only question I want answered is whether this is the race we finally see those bloody Lotus ears uncovered.
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Is F1 turning a bit akin to a soap opera?:

Pirelli: tyre tests did not favour any team
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/ ... 14624.html

FIA requests Ferrari tyre test information
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/ ... 14626.html

No, really I want to know. It's like a he said she said thing...

I hope Canada is better than Spain (it can't be worse than Monaco at any rate).

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komninosm wrote:Is F1 turning a bit akin to a soap opera?:

Pirelli: tyre tests did not favour any team
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/ ... 14624.html

FIA requests Ferrari tyre test information
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/ ... 14626.html

No, really I want to know. It's like a he said she said thing...

I hope Canada is better than Spain (it can't be worse than Monaco at any rate).
The nature of the layout, and the type of asphalt used make this race very similar to Albert Park without as much lateral loading, however there are longer straights than in Albert Park so you need to trim some downforce which could lead to wheel spin on corner exit, combine this with the relatively smooth asphalt and you can actually get slightly more wear than in Australia. In addition you have to ride the kerbs hard to get a good lap time, the kerbs are much lower grip than the already smooth asphalt.
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godlameroso wrote:trim some downforce which could lead to wheel spin on corner exit, combine this with the relatively smooth asphalt and you can actually get slightly more wear than in Australia.
Except of course nobody has ever complained of WEAR since Pirelli came into the sport. These tyres are rock-hard in terms of wear life. Mercedes in previous years is pretty much the only team which has ever had any problems with tyre WEAR on Pirellis.

I am absolutely convinced that - as long as a driver doesn't lock brakes, then even the supersofts can complete a no-stop grand prix distance. The only issue being the degradation - you'd be slower than a tortoise walking on treacle at the end of the grand prix. But you'd still have rubber.
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would love to know the truth of what is happening

FIA .....pirelli can only change the tyres in season for safety reasons
Pirelli .....we cannot change the tyres for canada unless all teams agree , which they don't , so we will provide modified 2013 tyres to test instead

is that what we all understand ? but if pirelli thought there was a safety reason they could change the tyres without reference to the teams ..is THAT correct ? otherwise we end up with a michelin at indy scenario

so pirelli must clearly be sincere in their ..no safety problem .. stance as they would love to change the belt for marketing reasons because it doesn't look good despite the fact that all 4 tyres that suffered delamination appear to have been cut by debris

so on that basis why are they going to test in canada preparatory to introduction at silverstone because the teams won't agree there any more than they agreed for canada

the tyre tests by merc and ferrari are another matter altogether , the rules are clearly a mess as is the situation where the supplier of a safety critical item isn't allowed to test his product properly , pre season testing is about as useful as testing dry tyres in the rain

is it just me or are we going round in circles ? the teams don't actually see a safety problem either or they would agree , the FIA won't allow a change without that even though pirelli would really like it for other reasons , so why are we not just carrying on as before ; especially as pirelli seem to be saying that they have cured the bonding problem in the laboratory and the tyres are intrinsically safer anyway due to the higher resistance to the detritus from front wings on the track , which problem the FIA have not addressed [ although a small improvement next year it seems ]
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Well, Pirelli may think that admitting that they (the tires) have a safety problem may be more damaging to their reputation than just a “cosmetic” problem of delamination. In all fairness, having an instant puncture or “explosion of the tire” due to debris on the track can be much more of a safety problem compared to the delamination problem. It is also much more unfair, because it can take a much longer time to limp for tire change with a totally destructed tire instead of just delamination.

So they may just be hoping that the teams that are resisting the proposed tire change would change their mind after having had the possibility to test the new tire structure.

However, I have some doubts whether the track in Canada can give enough confidence for the teams to agree on that their competitiveness won’t be affected too much, since it is not a high degradation track. Thus we may end up having the same tires for the rest of the season, unless some more testing can be arranged to be done for instance in Silverstone.

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I plan on buying general admission tickets for Fridays practice however I have a few questions. The weather is calling for 1-3mm of rain, is this enough to cancel or postpone practice? If so, are refunds available? Thanks in advance.

-Mike

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No they would not cancel or postpone the day for 1-3mm of rain
You'll know better Thursday but if it does rain just bring a jacket and/or an umbrella and you'll be fine

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Current forecast is for sun and clouds. The weather types should have a clearer idea by Saturday morning! :twisted:
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How many sets of Inters and Wets do each driver get for a weekend.

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dave34m wrote:How many sets of Inters and Wets do each driver get for a weekend.
4 Intermediate Compounds and 3 Full Wet Compounds are allocated for each driver for a weekend

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MOWOG wrote:Current forecast is for sun and clouds. The weather types should have a clearer idea by Saturday morning! :twisted:
Meteoblue currently has 60%-70% chances of showers on Friday, 70% chance of heavier rain on Saturday and 70% chance of showers on Sunday.

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beelsebob wrote: Image
Some slight changes up to this point, and bound to change as we get closer again.

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