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rich1701 wrote:Image
Are those shark gills we are seeing on that sidepod? or is this an old car?
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ISLAMATRON wrote:
Are those shark gills we are seeing on that sidepod? or is this an old car?
Thats the old car I think look at the helmet it looks like Nico Rosberg's helmet.

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ISLAMATRON wrote:Are those shark gills we are seeing on that sidepod? or is this an old car?
rich1701 wrote:The sidepods are a bit similar to the FW30 hybrid car.
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look at the nose guys the top one slopes down lower and the next pic is almost level
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Alexpcenteno wrote:I've tried to get some still frames of the video to try and see something, especally the difusor. It looks good. Any opinions? :?:
:lol: i admire your optimism, but those photos don't really show anything of the diffuser to claim it looks good.

the packaging around the gearbox certainly is extremely low & tight.

i have to say i'm personally surprised the teams have gone the Red Bull way of a very low rear. i was assuming the tall-sidepodded MP4-24 style of late 2009 was going to be the way forward. firstly due to the fuel tank increase, and secondly to provide more space at the rear for extreme diffuser designs.

i'm glad my assumptions were wrong!


the FW32 sure looks sleek, nimble & graceful compared to the other 2 so far launched.
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ISLAMATRON wrote:
rich1701 wrote:Image
Are those shark gills we are seeing on that sidepod? or is this an old car?
Top picture is 2009 car with Rosberg lower pic is 2010 with Hulkenberg.
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WhiteBlue wrote:
ISLAMATRON wrote:
rich1701 wrote:Image
Are those shark gills we are seeing on that sidepod? or is this an old car?
Top picture is 2009 car with Rosberg lower pic is 2010 with Hulkenberg.
I didn't mean to mislead, I just found it interesting that Williams appear to of abandoned the fw31's somewhat bulky sidepod arrangement in favour of something more 'trendy' slanted sidepod design. I don't think KERS compromised the design that much in 09?

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rich1701 wrote:I don't think KERS compromised the design that much in 09?
Not more-so than what the fuel tank has compromised design this year, particularly as Williams' KERS was never track-tested.

The sidepod is definitely more bulbous around the front of the sidepod, but as you say, they've followed the Red Bull sidepod design towards the rear.
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djones wrote:Could somebody please explain to an idiot what a crossplane engine is and what the advantages of this would be?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossplane

I believe the advantage would be a "smoother" power delivery (not sure what this means in the real world), with the disadvantage of a heavier (possibly bulkier?) engine.

EDIT: A smoother power delivery implies less vibration. However, as the cars already withstand the vibrations of the flatplane, are there any advantages to a crossplane?

basically a cross plane is a perfectly balanced engine, but it has 50% more rotational inertia and it mostly pushs the crank up

since the crank is at 140mm from the floor of the car cross plane will be as low as the flat plane.

it will be abit heavier depending on how the conterweight is designed.

E=0.5*I*(w^2)

in 06 engine can go as far as 21,000 now they are limited to 18,000
which means w^2 is at 36/49 about 73%, interms means I can be 36% more, closer to 50%
the engine could rev less, which will have lower top speed, but ok in the sense that it could save even more fuel

if rev is unlimited flat plane is definately better
but if rev is unlimited bore size is limited, and they can make it rev as hard cross plane is likely

main advantages are it doesn't shake the car in to pieces, it holds revs better on partial throttle, so its easier to drive. power will be abit lower but not by that much

translate that interms of '10 rules the car will be about to just be driven off throttle in alot of places, instead of constant stab of throttle around a corner, saving fuel

Edit: numbers in calculation
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Good stuff Mike, thanks.

I personally hope that Williams build a winning car this season and that the Cosworth engine doesn't let anyone down, especially the new teams as it would prove whether it was their own fault for bad results or not.
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Crossplane can also be big bang :)
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Nice car. But tomorrow we'll see more. I'm looking forward to it.

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Image

The best photo jet

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there's an intake behind the drivers head. It can be seen in the photo above but more clearly in this:
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Engine can't need extra cooling, surely? 5 intakes! 1 for engine air, 2 for oil cooling and 2 lower down for engine cooling?
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That white line on the nose should be removed. Along with the complex nosecone shape it makes it look deformed.