2016 McLaren F1 Team - Honda

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why?

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alonsofan wrote:all the talk about the chassis being good and the engine being crap goes down the --- hole :lol: :lol: :lol:
Alonso said after Q car is 3rd best in S3
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Andreas Haupt ‏(AMuS)

#Alonso believes that #McLaren has 3rd best chassis in grid. #Honda will introduce 2 engine updates (Canada + Spa). http://ams.to/18H

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Mekki wrote:I've compared the qualy times from 2015 and 2016.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/e3fy8gb4xwenn ... n.PNG?dl=0
Average Improvement (both drivers, average improvement over Q1 - Q3:

FI - 3,823
RB - 3,550 sek
McL - 3,417 sek
Merc - 2,999 sek
Fer - 2,778 sek

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f1fan_007 wrote:Andreas Haupt ‏(AMuS)

#Alonso believes that #McLaren has 3rd best chassis in grid. #Honda will introduce 2 engine updates (Canada + Spa). http://ams.to/18H
First Update in Canada, Second in Spa? Any details on what type of Updates?
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Mekki wrote:
Mekki wrote:I've compared the qualy times from 2015 and 2016.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/e3fy8gb4xwenn ... n.PNG?dl=0
Average Improvement (both drivers, average improvement over Q1 - Q3:

FI - 3,823
RB - 3,550 sek
McL - 3,417 sek
Merc - 2,999 sek
Fer - 2,778 sek
FI introduced the B-spec car later in the year, however, it is still a massive improvement. Merc improvement is also impressive. Bit dissapointed with Ferrari, their gap to the Mercedes have actually increased.
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alonsofan wrote:all the talk about the chassis being good and the engine being crap goes down the --- hole :lol: :lol: :lol:
How?
Finally, everyone knows that Red Bull is a joke and Max Verstappen is overrated.

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alonsofan wrote:all the talk about the chassis being good and the engine being crap goes down the --- hole :lol: :lol: :lol:
The engine issues amplify the chassis shortcomings, I think and the other way around.

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Mekki wrote:
Mekki wrote:I've compared the qualy times from 2015 and 2016.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/e3fy8gb4xwenn ... n.PNG?dl=0
Average Improvement (both drivers, average improvement over Q1 - Q3:

FI - 3,823
RB - 3,550 sek
McL - 3,417 sek
Merc - 2,999 sek
Fer - 2,778 sek
It's interesting to see that McLaren isn't the one that most improved. So basically all the improvement on their results comes from reliability rather than pace. I know that if Jenson had been closer to Fernando in qualy the difference from last year would increase, but even so we could still reach the same conclusion.
Stalker1 wrote:FI introduced the B-spec car later in the year, however, it is still a massive improvement. Merc improvement is also impressive. Bit dissapointed with Ferrari, their gap to the Mercedes have actually increased.
The most comic bit is Toto constantly trying to convince everyone that "Ferrari is very close" when in fact the gap is increasing over last year. Just shows how they'll say and do anything to keep the rule makers from trying to give the other teams some mean of closing the gap.

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Sayeman wrote:
f1fan_007 wrote:Andreas Haupt ‏(AMuS)

#Alonso believes that #McLaren has 3rd best chassis in grid. #Honda will introduce 2 engine updates (Canada + Spa). http://ams.to/18H
First Update in Canada, Second in Spa? Any details on what type of Updates?
No specific details about update in the article, but marca 2 days back reported canada updates will be ICE and plenum.

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alonsofan wrote:all the talk about the chassis being good and the engine being crap goes down the --- hole :lol: :lol: :lol:
Why exactly? Barcelona, while not quite as power sensitive as some tracks, is still not just a "chassis" track like Hungary or Singapore.
A lack of power shows up pretty heavily still.
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yea, i'm sorry, if fred said so, he said so. #-o #-o #-o . Engine needs to improve :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Mekki wrote:
Mekki wrote:I've compared the qualy times from 2015 and 2016.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/e3fy8gb4xwenn ... n.PNG?dl=0
Average Improvement (both drivers, average improvement over Q1 - Q3:

FI - 3,823
RB - 3,550 sek
McL - 3,417 sek
Merc - 2,999 sek
Fer - 2,778 sek
Aren't we ignoring tyres here?

Mekki
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Jef Patat wrote:
Mekki wrote:
Mekki wrote:I've compared the qualy times from 2015 and 2016.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/e3fy8gb4xwenn ... n.PNG?dl=0
Average Improvement (both drivers, average improvement over Q1 - Q3:

FI - 3,823
RB - 3,550 sek
McL - 3,417 sek
Merc - 2,999 sek
Fer - 2,778 sek
Aren't we ignoring tyres here?
yes we are. but the relative numbers show which team improved the most.

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Ah nice to see the mclaren chassis being unreliable as per usual.

Note the sarcasm.
I had to say it, there has been a lot of honda defending and mclaren bashing recently here.

(I'm 50-50, work to do on both fronts but I just have to say something now)
Just a fan's point of view