McLaren MP4-29 Mercedes

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Per wrote:
Alexgtt wrote:When was the last time we saw half the field retire from a race?
Good question, I think 2003 Brazilian GP.
Indianapolis 2005. 14 of 20 cars retired during the parade lap, which is defined as being part of the race.

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WillerZ wrote:
Per wrote:
Alexgtt wrote:When was the last time we saw half the field retire from a race?
Good question, I think 2003 Brazilian GP.
Indianapolis 2005. 14 of 20 cars retired during the parade lap, which is defined as being part of the race.
yeah, that was one hell of a race, Schumacher got a free win and Alonso still won the championship :)
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That's not saying much. ferrari was never in contention that year.

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Yeah true, i think it was raikkonen who was his closest rival...

anyway i think we're a bit off topic here
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Per wrote:Can you think of any other source that complies with regulations and makes sense from an aerodynamic point of view?
What regulation do you think it breaks to use any other air intake?

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beelsebob wrote:
Per wrote:Can you think of any other source that complies with regulations and makes sense from an aerodynamic point of view?
What regulation do you think it breaks to use any other air intake?
Not saying if it breaks the regulation, but here it is for others to look at.
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In comparison with the specification tested in Bahrain, what you expect to see in terms of updates to the race Melbourne?

What are the demands of Albert Park?

And about the interview in which Jenson said that lack rear downforce, what do you think? Even with the innovative rear suspension it is still critical to the MP4-29?
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beelsebob wrote: Who says the roll hoop is used as the air source for the engine?
Yes the rule gives some play and it has been discussed at length some weeks ago on this forum.Then the general consensus was that the intake would keep its usual position in the roll hoop for all teams; just today looking at the picture Owen posted I could not see the engine intake duct (or space for it).
Probably it's me not seeing correctly, and also the duct is not yet mounted in the picture - sometimes you want to see something unusual too much.

Anyway, where is the intake duct in Owen's picture? If it is not displayed, where should it fit?

edit: maybe the intake is in the opening below the air sccop for example - not too unconventional, but stll a novelty as rbr used that inlet for gbox rad cooling on rb9 and str are using it for the intercooler this year
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Maybe it splits off. The FI Mercedes engine has the same setup.

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beelsebob wrote:
Per wrote:Can you think of any other source that complies with regulations and makes sense from an aerodynamic point of view?
What regulation do you think it breaks to use any other air intake?
I'm not saying nor implying anything along that line; I'm asking you if you have any sensible idea of where the air intake could be if it is not in the roll hoop.

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shelly wrote: edit: maybe the intake is in the opening below the air sccop for example - not too unconventional, but stll a novelty as rbr used that inlet for gbox rad cooling on rb9 and str are using it for the intercooler this year
STR is using it for the engine's oil rads :wink:

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Is it allowed to perforate the bell shape suspension wing to reduce drag and allow more air into the area up and behind diffuser to make it more effective?

something like this....i know it's supposed to be symmetrically, its just a concept

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Is it permitted to blow behind the suspension bell wing to induce more negative pressure.
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delsando wrote:Is it allowed to perforate the bell shape suspension wing to reduce drag and allow more air into the area up and behind diffuser to make it more effective?

something like this....i know it's supposed to be symmetrically, its just a concept

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Is it permitted to blow behind the suspension bell wing to induce more negative pressure.
No, as it stops the suspension having a single cross section.

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A few shots of the MP4-29 from the filming days that took place in the last couple of days in Bahrain:

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Well bugger me, seems they wasted their filming day making videos and pictures...
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