COTA Austin - construction and infrastructure

[bhall]

I was, indeed.

Maybe a strategically placed hyphen would make it clearer. $100 per seat-deposit, and a seat-deposit entitles you the opportunity to buy as many PSLs as you'd like.

It is not a $100 per-seat deposit.

[hairy_scotsman]

I was, indeed.

Maybe the addition of a hyphen would make it clearer. $100 per seat-deposit, and a seat-deposit entitles you the opportunity to buy as many PSLs as you'd like.

OK, but that's not what it says.

ETA: I copied & pasted both of those directly from the site. Since that time, COTA has edited the copy of the 2nd quote on their FAQ page. Now it reads as follows:

In order to reserve your spot on the official Circuit of The Americas waitlist for suite and select seating opportunities, a $100 per account deposit and contact information must be submitted at the following link: http://bit.ly/SelectSeatingDeposit

So now the two statements agree.

[bhall]

My apologies. I do have a tendency to come off very condescending in matters such as this when the answer is quite clear to me. But, frankly, I don't see how else it can be read, especially in context and when the order page calls the deposits Select Seat Deposits.

I think this is easily the most nitpicky thread on F1Technical. We'd all probably have a better way of life if we held our governments up to this level of scrutiny.

[hairy_scotsman]

My apologies. I do have a tendency to come off very condescending in matters such as this when the answer is quite clear to me. But, frankly, I don't see how else it can be read, especially in context and when the order page calls the deposits Select Seat Deposits.

I think this is easily the most nitpicky thread on F1Technical. We'd all probably have a better way of life if we held our governments up to this level of scrutiny.

The statements I quoted at the top of the page were in direct opposition to one another. Pointing that out isn't nitpicking. In fact, pointing it out is probably what led to the correction.

The disagreement between the two statements was causing a great deal of confusion earlier today on forums like this one. You can even see the confusion in the reader comments on COTA's own facebook page.

The 2nd statement has been fixed as I noted in my last post. They agree now. They didn't agree just a couple hours ago.

[munudeges]

Your father may have also known that "Only children and fools are judges of half finished work".

Any fool can claim that a half-assed piece of work is unfinished.

If stonework like that is cut wrong and uneven it's not likely to be in a position where it is ever finished properly. Starting again would be more prudent.

[donskar]

And people are prepared to pay up to 5 kUSD for that privilege, on a track tat doesnt xist?

Speaking only for myself, "No."

[strad]

Looks very much like typical southwestern rustic stone work

[Mr Alcatraz]

Your father may have also known that "Only children and fools are judges of half finished work".

Any fool can claim that a half-assed piece of work is unfinished.

If stonework like that is cut wrong and uneven it's not likely to be in a position where it is ever finished properly. Starting again would be more prudent.

Perhaps we should wait until the whole of the project is complete before we pass judgement.

[bhall]

I can see it now. The lights will go off on a crisp Sunday afternoon in November, and 24 cars will scream into action under a big, blue Texas sky to begin the penultimate race of the 2012 season. But, before they even hit the first corner, someone here will incredulously xclaim, "That's just Hollywood trickery. This isn't really happening. And look! That wall still looks like sh*t."

[xpensive]

If the track existed, I don't know for sure that they'd be offering PSLs. PSLs are generally used to help finance initial construction or improvements to stadia. They are (sadly) quite common here in the States.

EDIT: To add a little context, many PSLs at the Dallas Cowboys' new stadium sell for over US$150,000.

Aha, mystery of the financing solved, all Cota needs is 60 000 people coughing up 5000 USD each to complete the track,
then they can start selling tickets and make out like bandits, now why didn't Silverstone think of that?

[FW17]

HS

Any news of a Caterham Club or Porsche Club being setup?

Someone talk to Tony or Riad

[Richard]

Form this picture, I think they need to do another 23 bays for Level 1 and possibly 30 for Level 2.

One would typically work on a weekly cycle for the slabs, ie 1 week from pouring a slab to pouring the next slab, and that also includes pouring and stripping the columns. You can see they have column shutters for 3 to 4 bays on level 0, so I guess they are pouring 3 to 4 bays at a time, then that means 8 to 10 weeks to complete the concrete structure, plus the fiddly stairs and lift shafts, say March or April?

They'll have a steel roof to drop in place but the images I've seen seem to show a very simple profile, so lets say 12 weeks for that to perhaps July or August?

I also guess only the VIP boxes will be conditioned, and the finishes elsewhere will be minimal (compared to an office or hotel).

So that grandstand seems achievable in time.

[Richard]

A lot of stadia use debentures to help fund construction.

The Royal Albert Hall (1871) and The All England Lawn Tennis and Croquet Club (1920) are two examples built on the back of debentures who purchased the right to purchase a ticket.

[hairy_scotsman]

HS

Any news of a Caterham Club or Porsche Club being setup?

Someone talk to Tony or Riad

No word, but there already is a Porsche Club in the area.

[mx_tifoso]

All of those trucks assure you that it couldn't be anywhere other than in the US.