Renault R30

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German GP preview:
Robert [Kubica], Silverstone was a tricky weekend for you, culminating in your first retirement of the year. Talk us through it…
In the end, we were struggling with the general grip of the car and our feeling on the performance side was that we were less competitive than we had been at the previous race. Everything was looking grey until the final part of qualifying, but I managed to qualify sixth which I think was quite surprising looking at our performance up to that point. It was even more surprising to be third in the first stint, after a good start and a good first lap, but our pace wasn’t great in the race and, even before the driveshaft problem, the car didn’t feel like it usually does. I think much of it was down to circuit characteristics because our least competitive circuits this year have been Barcelona and Silverstone, both of which have a lot of high-speed corners.

Looking to Hockenheim, do you expect the R30 to better suit this circuit?
It’s a more normal track with a more normal mix of corners. There are two very high-speed corners, at turn 1 and turn 12, and the rest are low and medium-speed. The track surface is very smooth, so you have to get the absolute maximum out of the car’s mechanical grip, and there is also one very long straight, where you have to make sure the car is competitive on top speed. All the cars we are racing already have an f-duct system, and this makes our life harder because we may have to reduce downforce to be competitive on top speed, which could cost us in the corners. We will have to evaluate the best compromise for us on Friday.

For this race, there will be a bigger gap between the tyre compounds, with Bridgestone bringing the super-soft and the hard tyres. What challenges will that present?
At first sight, the super-soft may struggle to do even one lap in qualifying and the hard compound could go on forever! The weather and the track conditions will have a big influence on how they perform: from experience, it will be tricky to make the super-soft tyre work properly, while the hard tyre should be okay. The other factor is that we may see a big balance shift between compounds, and that may make the weekend quite tricky and interesting from the tyre point of view.

What are your performance expectations for the weekend?
As usual, I will try to do my best and to extract the maximum from the car. Most of the teams we are racing now have both the f-duct and the blown floor, so I think it could be quite a tough weekend, and we need to make sure that our pace is more competitive than at the last race. But if it’s what we call a tough weekend for us is like in Silverstone, when we still could have finished P4 or P5, then I’ll take it straight away.
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Renault front wing pics from German GP:

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^^ What purpose does the hole in the endplate corner serve?
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mx_tifosi wrote:^^ What purpose does the hole in the endplate corner serve?
That little rod goes the whole length of the end plate and serves to meet the minimum radius rules if I have understood it correctly. So they don't specifically want that little hole, it is just a consequence of using that minimum radius rod.

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Very redbull fwing

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I wonder why they would make the upper wing element so far from the end plate.
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H.Lyoud wrote:Very redbull fwing
Not at all, the front wing doesnt look in any way like the one on the red bull.
godlameroso wrote:I wonder why they would make the upper wing element so far from the end plate.
By this you create an clean 'tunnel' where there is no downforce created thus probably keeping vortices in control there
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zgred wrote:Image
taking a leaf out of Toyota placing a rod between outer and inner appendages to restrain too much amplitude of vibration?

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How does the little rod running down the outside of the endplate actually help make it meet some minimum radius rule? It looks like the drooping down portion below that rod has the same edge radius and you could do away with the rod altogether?

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According to interview with Kubica in polish press, there will be new rear wing for Hungary.

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From RF1 Paddock Pass:

I agree that for the past few races the team has dropped off the heels slightly of the top teams and yes, we were over a second off pole in qualifying. But you have to remember that we are racing teams that have blown floors and F-ducts. When we do introduce our F-duct at Spa, we can expect to make a significant gain, which the other teams have already benefited from.

Also, as Eric Boullier, explains in the German GP podcast, there will be a new aero package on the way for Hungary because it’s such a tight and twisty circuit where you need as much downforce as you can get. Plus, the bumpy layout means it’s a circuit that is likely to suit the car more than Hockenheim.

So don’t be too depressed, guys. At the moment our closest competitor in the championship is Mercedes and we had the legs on them at Hockenheim, even though we didn’t have any upgrades on the car. And don’t forget that Mercedes have the f-duct and the blown floor. With our new upgrades on the way, we do believe that we can start making inroads to the top teams again and recapture the momentum we had earlier in the year.

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black is quicker than yellow? the endplate forrest has changed a bit in colour... :mrgreen:

the small horrizontal string they had last time is now a rod maybe it fluttered still too much?

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New rear wing:
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+ some tweaks to the diffuser, correct me If I'm wrong.