Mclaren MP4-30 Honda

[frosty125]

Hi Guys! That's looking good?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_-dLLWVIAAuVUJ.jpg:large

Looks like the airflow is attached quite well.

[George-Jung]

As far as we arm-chair specialists know, the aerodynamics aren't the problem...
It is the power unit..

[FrukostScones]

[Lucky]

[GoranF1]

What do you guys think this 3.5-4 seconds gap is? is it the engine turned down,is it the aero,chassis or what?

Yes.

I've mentioned this in the team topic as well, I've noticed on the on board videos from FP1 & 2 that both K-MAG & BUT were easy on the throttle (or it sounded that way), so they must again run with limited power.

although not a good thing ,also not bad because eventualy it will be tuned up,just hoping there isnt any fundamental problem whit the car....

[R_Redding]

Is the blo hole on the rear wing endplate new?..

[WaikeCU]

Here's a thing:

So the Mclaren is suffering from lots of problems. It's reported that they are not running on full power and some other member here reports that they are gentle on the power going around the track. What I am thinking right now is that if there's an issue with the throttle response as well? Is it extremely sensitive meaning if the throttle is lightly applied, it's easy to lose the rear?

[the EDGE]

Here's a thing:

So the Mclaren is suffering from lots of problems. It's reported that they are not running on full power and some other member here reports that they are gentle on the power going around the track. What I am thinking right now is that if there's an issue with the throttle response as well? Is it extremely sensitive meaning if the throttle is lightly applied, it's easy to lose the rear?

I'm not saying your wrong, TBH I don't really have an opinion at the moment as only time will tell what is wrong at McLaren Honda, but what you are suggesting would go against what Alonso, Button & Magnusen are saying, which is the Drivability of the engine is impressive. I don't see why they would outright lie.

That said, the situation is becoming increasingly concerning to me, until This morning I thought Mclaren would be leading the midfield at least, that is at least until they broke down! Now I'm not so sure, I find it strange that they are still 4s off the pace. Surely if the power was there but not the reliability then we would have seen some sign of it by now? After all, how can they risk leaving a quali sim until fp3 because if anything goes wrong there will not be enough time to change the PU before quali

[thomin]

Hi Guys! That's looking good?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_-dLLWVIAAuVUJ.jpg:large

No idea, but the fact that they do these kinds of flow-viz runs is a bad sign as it once again shows that they have to catch up a lot at the beginning of the season as they didn't get anywhere near the workload they were hoping to be able to do during pre-season testing.

[Dipesh1995]

Here's a thing:

So the Mclaren is suffering from lots of problems. It's reported that they are not running on full power and some other member here reports that they are gentle on the power going around the track. What I am thinking right now is that if there's an issue with the throttle response as well? Is it extremely sensitive meaning if the throttle is lightly applied, it's easy to lose the rear?

I'm not saying your wrong, TBH I don't really have an opinion at the moment as only time will tell what is wrong at McLaren Honda, but what you are suggesting would go against what Alonso, Button & Magnusen are saying, which is the Drivability of the engine is impressive. I don't see why the would outright lie.

That said, the situation is becoming increasingly concerning to me, until This morning I thought Mclaren would be leading the midfield at least, that is at least until they broke down! Now I'm not so sure, I find it strange that they are still 4s off the pace. Surely if the power was there but not the reliability then we would have seen some sign of it by now? After all, how can they risk leaving a quali sim until fp3 because if anything goes wrong their will not be enough time to change the PU before quali

I don't think that they're planning to run at full power at all in Melbourne tbh...

[radosav]

Here's a thing:

So the Mclaren is suffering from lots of problems. It's reported that they are not running on full power and some other member here reports that they are gentle on the power going around the track. What I am thinking right now is that if there's an issue with the throttle response as well? Is it extremely sensitive meaning if the throttle is lightly applied, it's easy to lose the rear?

Button said that with mercedes they couldn't tune throttle pedal map because they didn't give them power output curve, cause they know that this year they will be with honda! And from last few interviews with Button and Mag they said that they mostly lack engine power ! Probably Honda PU isn't at 100% yet !

[toraabe]

Here's a thing:

So the Mclaren is suffering from lots of problems. It's reported that they are not running on full power and some other member here reports that they are gentle on the power going around the track. What I am thinking right now is that if there's an issue with the throttle response as well? Is it extremely sensitive meaning if the throttle is lightly applied, it's easy to lose the rear?

The throttle response is normally down to software settings and is something that you are changing according to the track layout. You will never run the same throttle curve in Monaco as in Monza and so on.

[aleks_ader]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_-mqVjWAAAV_VA.jpg

Really nice demonstration of serrated leading edge of the RW

[Crabbia]

I'm not saying your wrong, TBH I don't really have an opinion at the moment as only time will tell what is wrong at McLaren Honda, but what you are suggesting would go against what Alonso, Button & Magnusen are saying, which is the Drivability of the engine is impressive. I don't see why they would outright lie.

I don't think they are lying but the logic is off to me. If they have very seldom been to the limit in the car how would they know it is balanced. In other words every car on the grid can be perceived to have good balance if it is running 3 sec off its designed threshold. similarly if the engine has never been turned up to design output (from what we heard from trackside reports) how would they know that it is still has good driveablity at design output.

I think they arent lying they are just trying to stay positive.

[f1rules]

testing two different frontwings, difference is in the upper elements inner part,
has anyone got pictures, if mclaren run the diffuser with cutouts in the outer diffuser walls?