But the straight between 15 and 16 is nt long enough to line up for a pass on an equally matched car (mid-field).zztopless wrote:..then having the first detection point before turn 15 should give cars that are good through the medium and high speed corners (and perhaps lacking in top speed) the chance to overtake into turn 16, then use their DRS to pull away on the pit straight.
It is if the car has already gotten close through the high speed stuff before it. Webber was getting close here last year, but it was terrible off-line. Hopefully the reduces dust makes this a possibility.ds.raikkonen wrote:But the straight between 15 and 16 is nt long enough to line up for a pass on an equally matched car (mid-field).zztopless wrote:..then having the first detection point before turn 15 should give cars that are good through the medium and high speed corners (and perhaps lacking in top speed) the chance to overtake into turn 16, then use their DRS to pull away on the pit straight.
But won't going through T15 with the DRS deployed be a hairy experience?! It ll become a slower Tamburello, with lesser down force!zztopless wrote:It is if the car has already gotten close through the high speed stuff before it. Webber was getting close here last year, but it was terrible off-line. Hopefully the reduces dust makes this a possibility.
How do you figure? I've never seen a side by side comparison of the two anywhere.godlameroso wrote:It's insane, last year in qualifying, in just the last two turns Vettel pulled nearly .4 on Alonso where before that they were practically neck and neck.
At the Thursday press conference:
Q: Kimi, your first time in India. What are your thoughts, your impressions?
Kimi Raikkonen: Well, I came last night at one o’clock, so I’ve only seen the motorway and the hotel. The hotel, outside it, looks nice. I have no complaints so far. The circuit - I haven’t gone around it. That is tomorrow. I’ll tell you about it.
1 1 Sebastian Vettel Q1 1:26.218 Q2 1:24.657 Q3 1:24.178 16raymondu999 wrote:How do you figure? I've never seen a side by side comparison of the two anywhere.godlameroso wrote:It's insane, last year in qualifying, in just the last two turns Vettel pulled nearly .4 on Alonso where before that they were practically neck and neck.
godlameroso wrote:Actually there are far more fast corners here than in Korea, aside from the three hairpins only two turns are taken at less than 180kph, both in the third sector, and exactly where Red Bull was crushing everyone. It might be that Vettel was taking a lot of curbing on the third sector, which will certainly be mitigated this year. The level of downforce is similar to what you would run in Malaysia actually, possibly a bit more.
Here's a lap comparison
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IppFPksBVM0[/youtube]
It seems that under 160kph the RB is producing the most downforce, but over 160kph they seem to be equal to Ferrari, and slightly less than Mclaren, but McLaren chews it's tires up worse than Ferrari or Red Bull. If the qualifying pace is similar then the Ferrari can usually overtake in the race, but Red Bull seems to have over half second gaps during quali and that can't be attributed to the driver, but rather a faster package.
Going by the video you posted, it looks to me like Vettel was carrying a lot more speed through the last 4 corners rather than the last 2. You can see he enters the lefthander after the long right a lot quicker.godlameroso wrote:1 1 Sebastian Vettel Q1 1:26.218 Q2 1:24.657 Q3 1:24.178 16raymondu999 wrote:How do you figure? I've never seen a side by side comparison of the two anywhere.godlameroso wrote:It's insane, last year in qualifying, in just the last two turns Vettel pulled nearly .4 on Alonso where before that they were practically neck and neck.
4 5 Fernando Alonso Q1 1:26.774 Q2 1:25.158 Q3 1:24.519 19
The video is pretty clearly out of sync – Hamilton is very clearly well ahead if you follow the video, despite the times revealing he's behind.raymondu999 wrote:Going by the video you posted, it looks to me like Vettel was carrying a lot more speed through the last 4 corners rather than the last 2. You can see he enters the lefthander after the long right a lot quicker.godlameroso wrote:1 1 Sebastian Vettel Q1 1:26.218 Q2 1:24.657 Q3 1:24.178 16raymondu999 wrote:How do you figure? I've never seen a side by side comparison of the two anywhere.
4 5 Fernando Alonso Q1 1:26.774 Q2 1:25.158 Q3 1:24.519 19
Yes the two videos on the right are of a race lap and a lap of free practice, the ones on the left between Alonso and Vettel are synced however.beelsebob wrote:The video is pretty clearly out of sync – Hamilton is very clearly well ahead if you follow the video, despite the times revealing he's behind.