Scuderia Ferrari 2013

[radosav]

[...]
where do you think Alonso would end up after two pit stops during first 5 laps?

Racing?

Against Caterhams , Marussias and Saubers ?

I'll tell you what Alonso had in his mind when he realised that he will end up last and race those cars if he pits for new wing and i'll quote sergeant Roger Murtaugh: I am too old for this sh!t.

[bhall]

How many times over the last few years have we seen the Championship boil down to the last race and to a handful of points? He could have rather easily scored points yesterday, even with only half the dumb --- that happened to drivers who finished ahead of him. Instead, I think he greedily gambled for the win when he should have gone for the wing.

[radosav]

How many times over the last few years have we seen the Championship boil down to the last race and to a handful of points? He could have rather easily scored points yesterday, even with only half the dumb --- that happened to drivers who finished ahead of him. Instead, I think he greedily gambled for the win when he should have gone for the wing.

I am satisfied that he fought for win , that wasn't very often last three year. He lost , so what, he is big boy ,he won't get fired!

[Crucial_Xtreme]

Even though the team claims it was their decision not to pit, Omnicorse.it is reporting Fernando received a radio transmission to pit for a new nose but he ignored the transmission/order.. Basically they're blasting his arse--> http://bit.ly/Ya8MMc

Translated to English for non-Italian speakers --> http://www.google.com/translate?hl=en&i ... con-i-team"]http://www.google.com/translate?hl=en&. ... con-i-team



"He received the radio call to pit for a new nose and disregarded the order"

"The insubordination cost the head of the Ferrari the constructors' championship. Too high a price to pay for the Maranello team."

[Kiril Varbanov]

Even though the team claims it was their decision not to pit, Omnicorse.it is reporting Fernando received a radio transmission to pit for a new nose but he ignored the transmission/order.. Basically they're blasting his arse--> http://bit.ly/Ya8MMc

Translated to English for non-Italian speakers --> http://www.google.com/translate?hl=en&i ... con-i-team"]http://www.google.com/translate?hl=en&. ... con-i-team



"He received the radio call to pit for a new nose and disregarded the order"

"The insubordination cost the head of the Ferrari the constructors' championship. Too high a price to pay for the Maranello team."

As we discussed on Twitter, I'm sort of reluctant to accept this one fully, but it's a valuable report and a discussion point.
I would think twice before agreeing with the statement that experienced racer like Alonso doesn't know the impact of broken front wing, moreover, he's not really aware of the damage, but can only tell: "Lots of vibrations at the front" which has been the case with no doubt.
The words on the article are quite harsh, so they must be either very much true (solid source inside the team) or just rumor. Let's see if there are reactions.

[Crucial_Xtreme]

As we discussed on Twitter, I'm sort of reluctant to accept this one fully, but it's a valuable report and a discussion point.
I would think twice before agreeing with the statement that experienced racer like Alonso doesn't know the impact of broken front wing, moreover, he's not really aware of the damage, but can only tell: "Lots of vibrations at the front" which has been the case with no doubt.
The words on the article are quite harsh, so they must be either very much true (solid source inside the team) or just rumor. Let's see if there are reactions.

I actually hope it's true. If not it brings into question, at least in my mind, about the teams technical minds and WTF they were thinking. It was obvious before Fernando reached the back straight the wing was broken at the pylon. There was no way with the speeds reached on the straights that the wing was going to hold up. I'd rather it have been Fernando's decision. Otherwise Ferrari's Technical Department needs to have their heads examined.

[Crucial_Xtreme]

A cold shower mustn’t cancel out the positives

The F138 confirms it is competitive at Sepang too

Maranello, 25 March – Ten points was certainly not a haul that matched expectations and, above all, potential. Of course yesterday’s result was a cold shower – even if it’s hard to picture such a thing in the Malaysian heat – for Scuderia Ferrari after Saturday’s excellent qualifying. But it’s also clear that a detailed analysis of how the weekend went reveals plenty of positives, especially from a technical point of view. The competitive performance of the F138, which was already shown during the previous weekend in Melbourne, was confirmed on a circuit that is much more meaningful than the unusual characteristics of Albert Park.
It’s true that, especially over a single dry lap, there is still ground to catch up – particularly compared to Red Bull but also to Mercedes – but it was in race pace that the Scarlet cars showed their strength. That could also be seen yesterday afternoon when Felipe Massa put on his dry tyres. By then the Brazilian had already faced difficulties with the intermediate tyres, by contrast with the previous afternoon’s qualifying when the performance on wet tyres had allowed the two Ferraris to defeat all their opponents with the exception of Vettel.
To understand how good the Brazilian’s pace was you just need to take a look at the lap times. On the ninth lap, once the series of pit stops for cars to swap from intermediates to slicks was over, the gap from Felipe to race leader Mark Webber was 22”627: the final gap to winner Sebastian Vettel was just three seconds more (25”648). That means for 47 laps Felipe’s pace was at the same level as the winners, and no one can say that anyone was backing off at the front! The second fastest lap time of all – set by the Brazilian when the track was completely dry – was another confirmation of the car’s performance.
So it is easy to understand the bitterness felt by Fernando Alonso who, at the end of the race, declared that he could have won it. It’s true that it’s always easier to speak out with the benefit of hindsight: that also applies to all the criticisms directed at the team’s choice. But in a moment like that it was up to the pit wall to decide in a few seconds – based both on telemetry and the feel of the driver – to leave Fernando on track, even with a damaged front wing. There was a clear desire not to let the chance to stay in the fight for important points slip away thanks to the slightest of touches – a ‘kiss’, as Stefano Domenicali described it after the race. The wrong choice, a gamble that wasn’t worth taking? Yes, but it was inspired by the knowledge that the team has a competitive car at the start of the season for the first time in years. That’s a lesson to bear in mind for the immediate future because certain errors must not be repeated – but it mustn’t cancel out how many good things came out of this weekend at Sepang.


http://formula1.ferrari.com/news/cold-s ... -positives

[anzakerw]

Given that No one could predict what lay ahead in the GP, More Rain - No Rain, safety car etc.
They should have pitted Alonso.
There was no excuse, just arrogance.
There needs to be a change at the helm of Ferrari.

[shelly]

Omnicorse makes a U-turn:

http://www.omnicorse.it/magazine/25981/ ... -carnefice

in this article they publicly apologise to alonso for the previous article in which they said he disobeyed; they say he was a victim of a wrong evaluation by Fry- his only fault has been driving so impressively with the damaged wing thus misleading the pit crew in thinking that damage was not big.

Impressive

[Crucial_Xtreme]

Omnicorse makes a U-turn:

http://www.omnicorse.it/magazine/25981/ ... -carnefice

in this article they publicly apologise to alonso for the previous article in which they said he disobeyed; they say he was a victim of a wrong evaluation by Fry- his only fault has been driving so impressively with the damaged wing thus misleading the pit crew in thinking that damage was not big.

Impressive

Yes I just saw that. Very good of them for setting the record straight.

[Gridlock]

It's an impressive u-turn, but not really impressive journalism...

He should have been flagged on that first lap and forced to pit, if that wasn't a car in a dangerous condition then I don't know what is. Webber could have paid dearly for that decision to stay out.

[mertol]

Even pitting him the first lap and putting dry tires on the damp track would mean comparable pace with the broken wing and intermediate tires there was nothing to lose with that pit really.

[nacho]

Does anyone remember someone doing many laps flatout with that kind of wing damage?

I remember some with wing parts missing but not with only one pylon.

[Kiril Varbanov]

Does anyone remember someone doing many laps flatout with that kind of wing damage?

I remember some with wing parts missing but not with only one pylon.

I recall the message from Smedley to Massa: "OK, half a second faster with a broken front wing, stay out." I think it was Barcelona 2011, but cannot find video footage. AFAIR the wing wasn't that much damaged, it was like broken endplate or some of the horizontal flaps, but not the whole pylon.

[nacho]

Yes I remember broken flaps or other parts of wings, like Salo in Monaco driving the whole race with a broken wing.