2013 Italian GP - Monza

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why are the names blurred out? Also, I wonder how that camera is calibrated as nothing else in the picture is registering any level of heat.

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I think weve reached that point where RedBull runs away with it. Starting by winning in Monza and atleast half the other GrandPrixs. But who knows maybe.....
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Race over. What's really scary for the rest is that the Renault isn't exactly the best when it comes to top end power.

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ecapox wrote:why are the names blurred out? Also, I wonder how that camera is calibrated as nothing else in the picture is registering any level of heat.
I think it´s because the person who uploaded the picture knew not everyone had watched the session.
So that too needs some applauds imo.

Regarding the temperature. It´s probably only registering stuff over 100C so it won´t pick up anything else.
Paul said that even on the straight where only the shoulder was showing heat (through friction i suppose) was close to 200 or something.

Very nice piece of technology and i hope they expand on this sort of thing. I think with only Williams and FI using it they are probably just testing the tech.
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AnthonyG wrote:
iotar__ wrote:What's going on, not Red Bull again, and at Monza of all places :x ? It's even worse and is getting annoying, can those useless F1 designers figure out something to beat them?
According to implications from the global consciousness project, we can influence things just by thinking of them.
I suggest we collectivly think at a faulty pitstop for Vettel (narrow it down to left front), that should increase the chances of it happening.
How sad is it that Newey is so good that masses of minds must coalesce to overcome his genius. It could work though when considering Rupert Sheldrakes work in morphogenetic field theory...If you get board with a Red Bull runaway Italian GP, the attached video may be a viable race alternative.

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SectorOne wrote:
Juzh wrote:The usual suspects upfront after fp2. RB look the strongest on both 1 lap and race pace, and are near the top in the speed traps in all 3 sectors. We don't know the fuel of course. Pretty sure rb ran a bit less than some others. Unusual amount of brake issues and locking for hamilton. Lots of brake dust from number of cars.
Red Bull is running less fuel then Ferrari and Mercedes in FP2.

Same deal as i said in SPA. It might still be quicker but it won´t be close to a second.
Mercedes unconsciously sandbags with their programme. The cars looks slow and somewhat uncontrollable but it´s just heavier fuel load imo.
AFAIR in Spa Mercedes was closer to RB's pace in FP than in the race, I know they blamed it on set up but still it was huge. Considering that Vettel was in front comfortably their advantage was probably bigger than time difference. I'd say RB's pace is real, hopefully something happens and they won't be leading after first lap.

Lotus ditched long-wheelbase - just to be safe. This is how the team looks that provides updates to one driver and relies on whims. The same driver who after saying that tyres won't last during the race, questions decision to pit after the race.

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P2 in SPA they were 8 tenths away from closest competitor. Had it been dry they would not have been 8 tenths away from anyone in Quali.
In the race they were about 3-4 tenths per laps quicker then the Ferrari. Mercedes simply chose the wrong aero package.

As Vettel himself said after Monza P, "it´s going to be about hundreds tomorrow"
And with Hamilton saying the car had no issues, it felt great you know the only real difference is fuel.
It was 4 races ago a Red Bull took a pole position, i don´t think Monza will be that day.

Yes their race pace looks good but it´s incredible ambitious to think that Red Bull is nearly one second ahead of everyone else, especially in Qualifying which Mercedes has simple dominated this year.
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dren wrote:The two Red Bulls were at the bottom of the speed traps, almost 10mph down on Mercedes. Maybe they are set-up again with the short gearing.
astracrazy wrote:if that is the case they are gonna struggle in the race, vettel will need to bolt
I'm not saying Red Bull will dominate, but to say that they will struggle, because they are 10mph down - is a fallacy, because that's exactly what happened in 2011. Down in the speedtraps, dominated the race.
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Nice, that shot of pastor's front tyre actually did a lovely job of demonstrating why dirt and pickup has such a large effect on grip for a while. Not necessarily because of adding bumps to the nice smooth rubber, but adding patches of cold to it.

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Lord of the Rings camera shots are indeed great. locking up looks cool.

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Very interesting, I think we maybe just saw our first example of cooking the tyres – DiResta locked up and got the tyres very hot, after that, they did not cool down at any significant speed like they had done previously.

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Flavio and king of hipsters in Ferrari garage :o

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Leading developer driver came back to shorter-wheelbase, Lotus threw away FP1,2 data and went down like a brick, another success story.

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iotar__ wrote: Edit:
Leading developer driver came back to shorter-wheelbase, Lotus threw away FP1,2 data and went down like a brick, another success story.
The long and short wheelbase had the same performances, but they switched Kimi back to previous versions just to be sure. It performs the same way as the short one right out of the box and now it's a matter of squeezing that something extra from it. The LWB will return in Singapore.

It's not the first based-on-nothing tendentious post you make towards Lotus and I am not sure you are writing it because you are being hateful or a bit slow-minded to say the least.
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stefan_ wrote:
iotar__ wrote: Edit:
Leading developer driver came back to shorter-wheelbase, Lotus threw away FP1,2 data and went down like a brick, another success story.
The long and short wheelbase had the same performances, but they switched Kimi back to previous versions just to be sure. It performs the same way as the short one right out of the box and now it's a matter of squeezing that something extra from it. The LWB will return in Singapore.

It's not the first based-on-nothing tendentious post you make towards Lotus and I am not sure you are writing it because you are being hateful or a bit slow-minded to say the least.
Why would it return for Singapore isn't a short-wheelbase better for Singapore's twisty track?

And finally Redbull have a good top speed for Monza 336 RB vs 338 SF. Also I think FI are going for more downforce setup (326) and they will be handy if it rains tomorrow
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