2013 Abu Dhabi GP - Yas Marina

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mikeerfol wrote: What's the LHS?
Left Hand Side

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henra wrote:
mikeerfol wrote: What's the LHS?
Left Hand Side
Thanks :)
I thought it would be that, but I wasn't sure.

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Unc1e_M0nty wrote:I don't know why anyone doubled what Lewis said, he always been quick to admit when he's made a mistake or just wasn't as fast as Rosberg
Because of lie-gate. Once a hypocrite, always a hypocrite. I can understand that. They've never once in their lives lied and got caught i suppose.
mikeerfol wrote: What's the LHS?
Large Hadron Smasher ? :P
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mikeerfol wrote:So, rear wishbone failure for Hamilton. Can they fix it under parc ferme?
Yeah. Teams are allowed to swap parts, safe for regulated ones, as much as they want, as long as it doesn't change the set up. Replacing a rear wishbone is no worry at all
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Helios wrote:Didn't he run over the kerb aggressively at the exit of T3? Maybe that was the reason why something broke and then it's his own fault aswell.
I think it's time to be a little bit fair here. A driver as hungry as Lewis will naturally try to push beyond the cars or his own limit at times. We expect him to. And when he does, at times, it'll make him lose time, make mistakes (some he gets away with, some he doesn't) or cause high tyre deg that will cost him in strategy and overall performance.

I guess the disappointment you are having stems from the fact that you not only expecting Lewis to drive flawless but also at the limit. Unfortunately, it's just not that simple. Perhaps we are being clouded by the fact that RedBull can pretty much deliever the perfect car and pretty spot-on setups race after race making life maybe that much easier and thus expect the same from pretty much any other driver to do the same in unequal machinery. The more a driver tends to push for that last tenth, the closer he is to make a driver error that will in the end lose him more than he would have gained.

Perhaps it's also easier to be critical of a driver who is driving in a team with a strong (but less valued) team-mate. I believe Rosberg is an extremely good driver, but mostly underrated. Just look at Schumacher's 3 years - more people were disappointed with his performances rather than applauding Nicos. It's easier to look and nod at Vettels supposed "perfect" accomplishment because he's always ahead of his team-mate, so even if he is bound to make errors - they are less likely to be noticed because he still remains in front of him most of the time, so no one is that critical. Perhaps if the inter-teambattle there was closer, more people would then notice the mistakes Vettel does because they had a strong benchmark within the same team to messure him against.
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Shrieker wrote:
Unc1e_M0nty wrote:I don't know why anyone doubled what Lewis said, he always been quick to admit when he's made a mistake or just wasn't as fast as Rosberg
Because of lie-gate. Once a hypocrite, always a hypocrite. I can understand that. They've never once in their lives lied and got caught i suppose.
mikeerfol wrote: What's the LHS?
Large Hadron Smasher ? :P
He was a bit of a kid back then and I think the team had some influence.

Over the last few seasons I think he's played it pretty straight, like I said when it's a question of outright performance he always gives credit to Rosberg or Button, they did a better job than me etc.

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Phil wrote:
Helios wrote:Didn't he run over the kerb aggressively at the exit of T3? Maybe that was the reason why something broke and then it's his own fault aswell.
I think it's time to be a little bit fair here. A driver as hungry as Lewis will naturally try to push beyond the cars or his own limit at times. We expect him to. And when he does, at times, it'll make him lose time, make mistakes (some he gets away with, some he doesn't) or cause high tyre deg that will cost him in strategy and overall performance.

I guess the disappointment you are having stems from the fact that you not only expecting Lewis to drive flawless but also at the limit. Unfortunately, it's just not that simple. Perhaps we are being clouded by the fact that RedBull can pretty much deliever the perfect car and pretty spot-on setups race after race making life maybe that much easier and thus expect the same from pretty much any other driver to do the same in unequal machinery. The more a driver tends to push for that last tenth, the closer he is to make a driver error that will in the end lose him more than he would have gained.

Perhaps it's also easier to be critical of a driver who is driving in a team with a strong (but less valued) team-mate. I believe Rosberg is an extremely good driver, but mostly underrated. Just look at Schumacher's 3 years - more people were disappointed with his performances rather than applauding Nicos. It's easier to look and nod at Vettels supposed "perfect" accomplishment because he's always ahead of his team-mate, so even if he is bound to make errors - they are less likely to be noticed because he still remains in front of him most of the time, so no one is that critical. Perhaps if the inter-teambattle there was closer, more people would then notice the mistakes Vettel does because they had a strong benchmark within the same team to messure him against.
Awesome post. +1'd you if I could.
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Excited to see Hulk in P6! Looking forward to some fireworks from Webber tomorrow. He needs that win...
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where is the fault of lewis today? was
very faster than nico
sector 1 lewis 17.729 nico 17.880
sector 2 lewis 42.401 nico 42.641
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/111075

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slimfitcasual wrote:Excited to see Hulk in P6! Looking forward to some fireworks from Webber tomorrow. He needs that win...
Like the fireworks his engine did in Singapore? :P

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Raikkonen excluded http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2013/11/02/r ... tart-last/

I think the right thing is to start from the pitlane.

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mikeerfol wrote:
slimfitcasual wrote:Excited to see Hulk in P6! Looking forward to some fireworks from Webber tomorrow. He needs that win...
Like the fireworks his engine did in Singapore? :P
True.

On the other hand, looks like Red Bull accidentally gave Webber Vettel's car for qualifying.
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slimfitcasual wrote:
mikeerfol wrote:
slimfitcasual wrote:Excited to see Hulk in P6! Looking forward to some fireworks from Webber tomorrow. He needs that win...
Like the fireworks his engine did in Singapore? :P
True.

On the other hand, looks like Red Bull accidentally gave Webber Vettel's car for qualifying.
They can still switch for the race I guess, so the poleman "curse" can continue...

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mikeerfol wrote:Raikkonen excluded http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2013/11/02/r ... tart-last/

I think the right thing is to start from the pitlane.
Oh man, I'm sure Kimi's REALLY regretting getting on that plane to Abu Dhabi. :?
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Well looks like Hamilton could have challenged for pole. It's just rotten luck.
Anyhow fourth is not that bad a place to start from at a track like this.

As for Kimi, maybe the team softened up his floor for him. :mrgreen:
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