2015 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka

[Jonnycraig]

Verstappen gets a 3 place penalty for stopping his car in a dangerous position.

Shame the car stopped itself.

Passed several Marshall points trying to limp home, before grounding to a halt in a dangerous place, so a fair penalty.

[i70q7m7ghw]

Two of the three sessions ruined by Red Bull rookies. Good to hear Verstappen has got a penalty. I couldn't believe it when I saw where he left the car, and then simply wondered around casuaully on the track... idiot.

[Juzh]

Having just watched pole position lap I can say with confidence it's the worst pole lap in years. So many mistakes I've lost count half way trough the lap.

https://vid.me/85Lr

[GPR-A duplicate2]

A lot of concerns over the tyre pressure from a lot of drivers.

Jenson Button warns of ballooning F1 tyres in Japanese Grand Prix

Pirelli has opted for high pressures because it feels Suzuka is tough on rubber, yet drivers like Button feels the Italian manufacturer has gone a step too far.

"It's going to be tough for everyone because the pressures are so high, the tyres are just going to be overheating after one lap," he said.

"They end up being like balloons because the pressures get so high.

"Everyone will have problems tomorrow, and we'll be included in that."

Romain Grosjean added: "It's going to be [a problem] since the limits, the restrictions are really extreme.

"It's difficult for everyone. There are teams that are going better than others, but [the pressures] are massively higher than what we would normally run."

His Lotus team-mate Pastor Maldonado is also anticipating a "quite difficult" race given the tyres last for "only one lap".

Maldonado added: "It's too late now, this is what Pirelli decided before starting the weekend, so it's going to be quite tricky during the race.

"I understand on the safety side why they decided to go for those pressures, but on the other hand, the tyres are not performing well."

[Moose]

That was a great example of why tarmac run offs are a good idea right there.

That was a great example of why tarmac run offs are a bad idea.

Huh? What makes you say that? If this had been a tarmac run off he would have slowed down before hitting the wall, rather than skimming over the gravel, and his car would not have dug into the gravel and flipped.

[Juzh]

That was a great example of why tarmac run offs are a good idea right there.

That was a great example of why tarmac run offs are a bad idea.

Huh? What makes you say that? If this had been a tarmac run off he would have slowed down before hitting the wall, rather than skimming over the gravel, and his car would not have dug into the gravel and flipped.

hahahahaha

[Moose]

Having just watched pole position lap I can say with confidence it's the worst pole lap in years. So many mistakes I've lost count half way trough the lap.

https://vid.me/85Lr

Uhhhh... I don't see it. The only mistakes I see are being a tiny bit wide at degner 2, and the lock up into the hairpin.

[Hammer44]

Having just watched pole position lap I can say with confidence it's the worst pole lap in years. So many mistakes I've lost count half way trough the lap.

https://vid.me/85Lr

Uhhhh... I don't see it. The only mistakes I see are being a tiny bit wide at degner 2, and the lock up into the hairpin.

He also made a mistake into Spoon as well. It's fair to say that this is the worst pole lap of the year.

[Moose]

Having just watched pole position lap I can say with confidence it's the worst pole lap in years. So many mistakes I've lost count half way trough the lap.

https://vid.me/85Lr

Uhhhh... I don't see it. The only mistakes I see are being a tiny bit wide at degner 2, and the lock up into the hairpin.

He also made a mistake into Spoon as well. It's fair to say that this is the worst pole lap of the year.

I see a very slight twitch of oversteer in spoon, not really a mistake, just a correction.

To what are you referring as a mistake?

[Sniffit]

That was a great example of why tarmac run offs are a good idea right there.

That was a great example of why tarmac run offs are a bad idea.

Huh? What makes you say that? If this had been a tarmac run off he would have slowed down before hitting the wall, rather than skimming over the gravel, and his car would not have dug into the gravel and flipped.

That is my point exactly.
Tarmac runoffs are more forgiving and not conducive to high stakes racing. Besides dramatic looking crashes are part of the allure of motorsport.

[George-Jung]

I don't understand the problem, if Rosberg manages to get pole with a scrappy lap, it means others where doing worse!

Besides having said that, I don't see much wrong with his pole lap.

[SiLo]

Both Rosberg and Hamilton had rubbish laps, and were still plenty ahead of the rest.

As to the issue of whether they should have tarmac run off, I really hate it, these drivers are the best in the world, if you can't keep it on the black stuff you should be punished, not let off. Yes the crashes are bad sometimes, thats kind of why the cars are incredibly resilient to crashes. Otherwise we might as well tarmac off a huge square and just draw on white lines when we get there for a track.

Heck, you could even race at the same place multiple times with completely different layouts.

/s

[Tim.Wright]

Kvyat got out completely uninjured but had his car totally destroyed due a mistake he made under brakes. I'd say the safety measures are working fine.

I wish every corner had those kind of consequences...

[Juzh]

I don't understand the problem, if Rosberg manages to get pole with a scrappy lap, it means others where doing worse!

Besides having said that, I don't see much wrong with his pole lap.

Means they got their asses saved by their car once again.

[Fulcrum]

No glaring errors, apart from the lock at Spoon, but talk about understeer! He barely hit an apex. It wasn't bad, he just couldn't seem to get through the apex on most corners, maybe within 30cm/1 foot out each time.

Do higher tire pressures induce understeer, or is there no correlation?