2024 Belgian Grand Prix - Spa-Francorchamps, July 26 - 28

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Never understood the hype about rain in qualifying. The lap times are already extremely close in dry conditions, and rain usually just separates the lap times even more.
Rain today also means that we will miss out on a new track record.

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Is there any possibility of Sunday qualifying?

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The session is washed out. The track was open, the teams just didn't want to use it in FP3. For qualifying they obviously will come out.
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The Ferrari engine need a rain calibration?
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Really heavy rain 2 hours before qualy. F2 race delayed.

What are the rules about qualy on Sunday?

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The F2 sprint race has been postponed. I don't watch the sports to see a driver get hurt but I have to say that the race directors are being increasingly cautious, too cautious in my opinion. F1 circuits are mostly safe, the driving level is as good as ever so what's the hesitation with allowing drivers go out on track?

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erudite450 wrote: ↑
27 Jul 2024, 15:00
The F2 sprint race has been postponed. I don't watch the sports to see a driver get hurt but I have to say that the race directors are being increasingly cautious, too cautious in my opinion. F1 circuits are mostly safe, the driving level is as good as ever so what's the hesitation with allowing drivers go out on track?

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2 drivers have died at Spa in the last 5 years or so. If there's any current f1 track at which to be cautious with conditions, this is it.

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Nickel wrote: ↑
27 Jul 2024, 15:18
erudite450 wrote: ↑
27 Jul 2024, 15:00
The F2 sprint race has been postponed. I don't watch the sports to see a driver get hurt but I have to say that the race directors are being increasingly cautious, too cautious in my opinion. F1 circuits are mostly safe, the driving level is as good as ever so what's the hesitation with allowing drivers go out on track?

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2 drivers have died at Spa in the last 5 years or so. If there's any current f1 track at which to be cautious with conditions, this is it.
Fair enough.
But my worry is that it's seemingly carrying over to other tracks. It is not the right way to go.

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f1onions wrote: ↑
27 Jul 2024, 13:03
Never understood the hype about rain in qualifying. The lap times are already extremely close in dry conditions, and rain usually just separates the lap times even more.
Rain today also means that we will miss out on a new track record.
Most people prefer unexpected results (especially if it's light rain or changeable conditions), than new track record which is mostly meaningles stat.
We had few very exciting wet Qs this season. Seems like this is more like SPA issue rather than rain isssue.

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renault rs26 wrote: ↑
27 Jul 2024, 15:39
f1onions wrote: ↑
27 Jul 2024, 13:03
Never understood the hype about rain in qualifying. The lap times are already extremely close in dry conditions, and rain usually just separates the lap times even more.
Rain today also means that we will miss out on a new track record.
Most people prefer unexpected results (especially if it's light rain or changeable conditions), than new track record which is mostly meaningles stat.
We had few very exciting wet Qs this season. Seems like this is more like SPA issue rather than rain isssue.
I can totally understand that, but I really like the technical aspect of this sport, especially lap times and cornering speeds. For me personally, a new track record is definitely not meaningless.

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f1onions wrote: ↑
27 Jul 2024, 13:03
Never understood the hype about rain in qualifying. The lap times are already extremely close in dry conditions, and rain usually just separates the lap times even more.
Rain today also means that we will miss out on a new track record.
That is the objective take, but people are usually don't work like that.
Generally there is driver/team who is favorite to win and their fans don't want rain. While everyone else hopes for some change in the order so they hope for the rain. Which is around 80% of population.
Of course sometimes you know rain is not good for your driver/team for some reason so you want a dry race/qualy even if not the favorite to win.
But this is the base principle.

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f1onions wrote: ↑
27 Jul 2024, 15:47
renault rs26 wrote: ↑
27 Jul 2024, 15:39
f1onions wrote: ↑
27 Jul 2024, 13:03
Never understood the hype about rain in qualifying. The lap times are already extremely close in dry conditions, and rain usually just separates the lap times even more.
Rain today also means that we will miss out on a new track record.
Most people prefer unexpected results (especially if it's light rain or changeable conditions), than new track record which is mostly meaningles stat.
We had few very exciting wet Qs this season. Seems like this is more like SPA issue rather than rain isssue.
I can totally understand that, but I really like the technical aspect of this sport, especially lap times and cornering speeds. For me personally, a new track record is definitely not meaningless.
There are 24 races and usually if a car is good at some of then it's good an all and then seeing same results over and over again is bring. And if cars beat track record it probably mean they'd beat it at other track too so we can assume that don't need to see iz at expense of an excitement.
Btw most races are dry anyway.

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erudite450 wrote: ↑
27 Jul 2024, 15:00
The F2 sprint race has been postponed. I don't watch the sports to see a driver get hurt but I have to say that the race directors are being increasingly cautious, too cautious in my opinion. F1 circuits are mostly safe, the driving level is as good as ever so what's the hesitation with allowing drivers go out on track?

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I think they postponed that race because if it started, it is likely it would interfere with F1 qualifying.

Any kind of red flag or longer safety car and you could get the race cut into F1 qualifying slot.

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Re: 2024 Belgian Grand Prix - Spa-Francorchamps, July 26 - 28

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0.003s for Albon to knock Perez out there

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Re: 2024 Belgian Grand Prix - Spa-Francorchamps, July 26 - 28

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Alonso, Ocon and Perez don't have any new inters left for Q3, I think