Japanese GP 2009 - Suzuka

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modbaraban wrote:
WhiteBlue wrote:Kobayashi will be shattered that he cannot sub for Glock after his rain practise on Friday.
Why is that?
He must qualify as a replacement driver to be allowed to race.

Different for Webber. He will drive because he is the regular driver and managed some practise runs this weekend.
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zgred wrote:Image

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reffering to the 2nd pic... there was a yellow flug and debri...but that brawn didnt seen to slow down...i wonder is it allowed that you are passing such debri but you dont have to slow down...

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Vettel seems light, Lewis seems heavy... didnt get to see Trulli.

On the clean side with KERS Lewis should easily get past JT.

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sunny1304 wrote: reffering to the 2nd pic... there was a yellow flag and debri...but that brawn didnt seen to slow down...i wonder is it allowed that you are passing such debri but you dont have to slow down...
Alonso has raised the question about both Brawns not backing off when going through there. Rubens definitely didn't appear to but I don't know about Jenson. He has a good point I think. Varsha on Speed said that the stewards might shuffle the order based on what Alonso and another driver said. But I can't remember who the other one was.

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First post, so greetings.

Thought the rule regarding this was: A driver's time through the section affected by the caution must be slower than the same sector's time last lap.

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That was the strangest, dangerous, and exciting qualifying I've seen all year.

Bad crash for Alguersuari, but good to see that he will be fine. Really awful crash for Glock, they're saying it's only an abrasion on his left leg, and that there is a chance he might actually race tomorrow.

Force India had awfully mixed fortunes. Luizzi qualified where FI usually does, at the back of the grid. Great job by Sutil though to qualify 4th, although I have a feeling he might be light, but we shall see. Trulli has a good chance at a podium, and he is very experienced at Suzuka so he should do good. Vettel and Hamilton will be interesting, because for both of them this will be their first race at Suzuka.

Suzuka does have a record of dangerous incidents in the past, and combined with several rookies, the rain yesterday with lack of dry running, plus lack of testing all combined together to form quite a bad combination.

I will admit I was surprised that Toro Rosso showed some speed, but they couldn't keep it on the track. Also what Buemi did at 130R was unacceptable. He most definitely deserves a penalty for not parking his car and continue to drive his damaged car into the pits.

Williams struggled, and as I predicted Nakajima qualified poorly. BMW did fine, Brawn did not qualify that high, but we shall see what the race brings.

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I recently heard sir Stirling Moss mentioning how ridiculously overcomplicated F1 rules have become. he said in the olden days, under yellow you were supposed to watch out and not hit anything, not you should watch your sector times and not overtake anyone...

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And the grid changes begin.... Luizzi gear box penalty, -5 positions

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I guess Hamilton could be in trouble for not lifting under yellow. He could loose a timed lap and go significantly back if he got into Q3 on an illegal time.
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The Buemi situation is not complicated in my eyes, it's quite simple. Any driver with common sense should have parked the car, and any team with common sense should have instructed the driver to park the car. On track, drivers approach 130R blind, and it is a very good thing nobody hit Buemi as he was slowly making his way to the pits. If the FIA has any common sense, then surely Buemi must get a penalty.
ISLAMATRON wrote:And the grid changes begin.... Luizzi gear box penalty, -5 positions
:lol:, he qualified near the back as it is, so now he will start in last place.

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WhiteBlue wrote:I guess Hamilton could be in trouble for not lifting under yellow. He could loose a timed lap and go significantly back if he got into Q3 on an illegal time.
Im waiting to hear what will happen to the Brawns, didnt know Halmiton was involved as well.

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dave34m wrote:
WhiteBlue wrote:I guess Hamilton could be in trouble for not lifting under yellow. He could loose a timed lap and go significantly back if he got into Q3 on an illegal time.
Im waiting to hear what will happen to the Brawns, didnt know Halmiton was involved as well.
He wasn't, he had already gone past before Buemi's adventure.

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I would not be astonished if the Brawns started from 5 or 10 places futher down the grid, same with Heidfeld and anyone else that gained when the Bueni yellow was out. Buemi will most probably get a penalty as well, probably a 10 grid drop by 5 or 10 places for dangerous driving.

Hope Glock is OK, if he isnt, im shure that Kimui could be used as the replacement driver, but must start from the pits. As thats what Ferarri could have done at Hungary if they has a driver that completed some practice laps in FP1 or FP2. But i think there could be as many as 5 cars starting from the pits tomorrow after a setup change or rebuild, i think that Alguersuari, Buemi, Glock/Kobayashi, Kovalinen adding to the already there Webber, who would technicaly start from "pit pole" if there was as many as 5 drivers who start in the pits if i am right.

All i need is the fuel weights and ill have fuel adjusted pole and when the first stops are. Should be arround 3-4 hours after Quali they surface, so anytime from 10am UK time they will come out.

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Looking at the video, looks like Timos steering failed, his input was constant thru the the corner, till he looks to have "understeered" off;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GfsF123 ... r_embedded#

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If they cancel the times set under yellow in Q2, how many drivers will have no time at all?