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WhiteBlue wrote:I believe with the USF1 decision to petition the FiA to defer their entry to 2011 Stefan GP is finished. Their only chance to race is the collaps of another new team.
or a buyout of another team -toro rosso is for sale ,yes?

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WhiteBlue wrote:I believe with the USF1 decision to petition the FiA to defer their entry to 2011 Stefan GP is finished. Their only chance to race is the collaps of another new team.
Think about it WB, none of those were ever viable options, Formula One has always been pursued by semi-criminals (Stefan vs Van Rossem), half-wits (USF1 vs Life) and outright losers (Campos vs Merzario).
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From SpeedTV: Stefan ‘Apologizes’ To FIA And FOM
Written by: Adam Cooper
02/28/2010
Balen (BEL)


Stefan GP has taken a conciliatory approach in the latest statement on its website.

After a barely disguised attack on the FIA on Friday the team has now issued a further message with a less aggressive tone.

The team named not just the FIA but also Bernie Ecclestone’s FOM organization in a statement that read as follows:

“SGP would like to re-confirm its desire and, importantly, its ability to compete in the whole of the FIA 2010 Formula One World Championship.

“It recognizes that this can only happen with the consent of the FIA and the FOM, but has faith that the Formula One 'family' will make the correct decision in the end...

<< Full article here >>

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xpensive wrote:
WhiteBlue wrote:I believe with the USF1 decision to petition the FiA to defer their entry to 2011 Stefan GP is finished. Their only chance to race is the collaps of another new team.
Think about it WB, none of those were ever viable options, Formula One has always been pursued by semi-criminals (Stefan vs Van Rossem), half-wits (USF1 vs Life) and outright losers (Campos vs Merzario).
I ask myself how one can be so judgemental all the time. Sometimes a venture doesn't work out due to risks that couldn't have been forseen. It is strange to read these extreme put downs. When I read about the history of all the old F1 teams they all had their times of struggle and went to the brink. Some make it and some don't. That doesn't make those guys who honestly tried idiots. They all had guts to go out and do it. Some just had some lucky breaks and others didn't.
Formula One's fundamental ethos is about success coming to those with the most ingenious engineering and best .............................. organization, not to those with the biggest budget. (Dave Richards)

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that is one valid point.
F1 is not the usual company and it is not the usual race team .Looking back into w
history ,Teams like Tyrrell ,Lotus, Brabham all went down and out and new outfits like Toyota , Sauber ,BAR,Jordan,Pacific,Simtek, they all took different approaches but had
to stand huge blows and it is really sometimes close to a wonder that they suvived...Look at FI for example , 4 years back when shnider took over from jordan ,they were finished frankly speaking ,but with a lot of luck they not only found mallya but also forged a small and strong team almost winning a GP in 2009 I would not have pu a penny on them back then .
On the other hand toyota with all the money they did take ages to rise and then when you could finally see them beginning to do the business they just got pulled the plug.
so there is a good chance to fail in F1 but a very small to survive ar even make it up there.
We are surely all not in a position to seriously be the final jury about these guys ,as we are sitting in front of the pc or laptop being not involved.

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They have proof of a car!! Hope they get on the grid
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thestig84 wrote:They have proof of a car!! Hope they get on the grid
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Amen. [-o<

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Heartbreaking to share the gospel of love and sympathy from Germany, even if it has no effect on a heartless Swede.

Formula one is the Gordon Gekko-world of sports, people like Merzario, Wiggins or Anderson had no business there.
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xpensive wrote:Heartbreaking to share the gospel of love and sympathy from Germany, even if it has no effect on a heartless Swede.

Formula one is the Gordon Gekko-world of sports, people like Merzario, Wiggins or Anderson had no business there.

those nordic guys are really mean..but in essence he is right.
I wonder how Sauber could survive in all those years ,but sure Anderson is not quite in the same league as Kauhsen ,Merzario,Sasetti, life .
But you got a point there AND you will not have to ingest the firesuit,I will not forget that.

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Peter Sauber was in completely different personality-league to begin with, a respected partner of Mercedes.
A tradition he continued with Ford, Petronas, Credit Suisse, Ferrari and BMW, the way a privateer earns his respect.

In the above context, Andy Pandy is barely a bum and Stefanovich a gangsta.
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A little off topic but while we're talking about semi-criminals, can anyone enlighten me as to how Briatore got into the sport?
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godlameroso wrote:A little off topic but while we're talking about semi-criminals, can anyone enlighten me as to how Briatore got into the sport?
Semi-criminals, you say? Sounds like Flav fits right in with their lot. :mrgreen:
From Wikipedia: Flavio Briatore -- Early life and Benetton career

...Briatore moved to Milan and worked in the Italian stock exchange. During this period, he met Luciano Benetton, founder of the Benetton clothing company.

Briatore was sentenced for gambling-motivated fraud, cheating and swindle by fake playing cards. Briatore was also involved in the bankruptcy of Paramatti, and eventually convicted on various counts of fraud in Bergamo and Milan and sentenced to 4 years and 6 months in prison. To avoid imprisonment, he fled to Saint Thomas,Virgin Islands. He never went to prison and he came back to Italy only thanks to an act of oblivion. In spite of his fugitiveness, he kept close relations with Benetton and opened some Benetton stores in the Virgin Islands. When Benetton opened his first five stores in the United States in 1979, he appointed Briatore as director of the group's American operations. Thanks to Benetton's methods of franchising, the chain experienced a brief boom in popularity in the US where, by 1989, there were eight hundred Benetton stores. Briatore, having taken a cut of each franchising agreement, became very wealthy. As store owners began to complain of competition from other Benetton stores, the number of stores decreased to two hundred and Briatore began to look for a new business...

...Briatore attended his first Formula One race, the Australian Grand Prix, in 1988, having in the past proclaimed his lack of interest in the sport. Luciano Benetton appointed him commercial director of his Formula One team, Benetton Formula Ltd. (formerly Toleman), and when he fired the team management shortly thereafter, Briatore was promoted to managing director and set about turning Benetton into a competitive team...

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Lol, he had Senna killed, so he wouldn't speak up about Benetton's cheating ways...no that was low, even for me.
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Eddie Jordan says "My understanding is that they will be in Bahrain with ex-champion Jacques Villeneuve driving."

So if Eddie's thoughts follow his usual pronouncements then we know it is diametrically opposite to how things will play out.

Bye bye Stefan, you now have the curse of Eddie on you.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsp ... 544246.stm
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From Google cache:
26/02/2010
StefanGP would like to inform the public that the containers we sent on the beginning of February arrived in Bahrain. In the corner of the page you will see official check from DHL and the confirmation that freight arrived. During next week we will show our Stefan Formula 1 car to the press as the final evidence that should put us on the grid in Bahrain.

If case we don’t receive the chance to compete in Bahrain, and also when some of the teams fail to show up, somebody should be in a trouble explaining what is happen to all of us.

And dreamers from USA will have to explain their actions, because they are deliberately weakening F1 with dreaming of perfect world and fairytales about success. And success doesn’t come by talking but with hard work and lot of guts.
Google cache - http://209.85.135.132/search?q=cache:ht ... ws008.html

Delivery docket - http://www.stefangp.com/images/news008pic001.jpg
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