Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team 2013

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http://www.formula1.com/news/interviews ... 14599.html

Pretty much confirms the agenda.: Hire all the big heads which are on the market to weaken the opposition and then find a place inside the team and try to harness them avoid spoiling the soup .. :mrgreen:

Clearly Brawn confirms the team structure of Ross defining the responibilities ,Bell supervisingthem all and definingthe needs for short ,medium and longterm success.
Willis in Charge of early concept work R+D handing over the Results to Costa as leader of the actual Car design sometime aerly in the year .
It´s not a split design group in terms of competing teams but a split in terms of general (pre) development looking for attractive development directions and concepts and a (detail) Development team transferring the concept into actual raceequipment.
Obviously he is Totos choice and Brawn had no input at all ..otherwise he would have said -ultimately we bring lowe in as a replacement of mine when i´m retiring ,no? Or is it only toto who can announce that?

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marcush. wrote:http://www.formula1.com/news/interviews ... 14599.html

Pretty much confirms the agenda.: Hire all the big heads which are on the market to weaken the opposition and then find a place inside the team and try to harness them avoid spoiling the soup .. :mrgreen:
Only if you've read it with a healthy dose of confirmation bias. ;)

I agree with you regarding how the team structure is arranged. I wonder if a good place for Lowe would be to have him manage the W04 for the rest of the season after Costa has taken over the W05 from Willis.
Obviously he is Totos choice and Brawn had no input at all ..otherwise he would have said -ultimately we bring lowe in as a replacement of mine when i´m retiring ,no? Or is it only toto who can announce that?
You're basing this on the assumption that he's obligated to tell the press what's going on behind the scenes. The fact is, we don't know whether Brawn had any input, regardless of what your crystal ball says. That said, I think it's safe to say that Lowe showed up sooner than they expected.

As for the tire test controversy… Pure. Unadulterated. F1. Awesome. It looks like they found a loophole, accomplished the necessary political maneuvers to make it happen, and then milked the hell out of it. Like it or not, that's F1. Good on them.

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Cocles wrote:
marcush. wrote:http://www.formula1.com/news/interviews ... 14599.html

Pretty much confirms the agenda.: Hire all the big heads which are on the market to weaken the opposition and then find a place inside the team and try to harness them avoid spoiling the soup .. :mrgreen:
Only if you've read it with a healthy dose of confirmation bias. ;)

I agree with you regarding how the team structure is arranged. I wonder if a good place for Lowe would be to have him manage the W04 for the rest of the season after Costa has taken over the W05 from Willis.
Obviously he is Totos choice and Brawn had no input at all ..otherwise he would have said -ultimately we bring lowe in as a replacement of mine when i´m retiring ,no? Or is it only toto who can announce that?
You're basing this on the assumption that he's obligated to tell the press what's going on behind the scenes. The fact is, we don't know whether Brawn had any input, regardless of what your crystal ball says. That said, I think it's safe to say that Lowe showed up sooner than they expected.

As for the tire test controversy… Pure. Unadulterated. F1. Awesome. It looks like they found a loophole, accomplished the necessary political maneuvers to make it happen, and then milked the hell out of it. Like it or not, that's F1. Good on them.
no crystal ball needed :
Brawn has confirmed he did not talk to Lowe ! so he was not hired because Brawn saying we need his expertise.That´s not crystal ball it´s logic.

If Lowe was hired as a part of Brawns masterplan he would have obviously said so .why should he NOT ? he said he has put in the current structure with the old boards 100% support ..can´t you see the point he is trying to make subtly ?

´Just look how he talks about the tyre and setup issues -he openly admits they have their car optimised for Qualy and try to find workarounds to not lose ultimate performance as a trade in for tyre life,a fact of life in motorsports not exclusive to MGP

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Ross on Lowe's arrival:

"I think there's still quite a lot of discussion that we need to have"

They haven't the faintest idea what he's going to be doing.

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Everybody is getting way to excited. After spain i told that we would understand the w04 better after the Monaco GP. Well let me tell you this.

Don't even think that they solved their "tyre" issue and they have a good race pace now. Non of the problems are solved. Almost everybody knew before the monaco weekend, that MGP would be strong. Monaco is different then all the other tracks and almost doesnt have mid and high speed corners. Which brings us to MGP's problem. Mid and High downforce corners, they are strugling on that point.
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In light of Nico's victory in Monaco.

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"...and there, very much in flames, is Jacques Laffite's Ligier. That's obviously a turbo blaze, and of course, Laffite will be able to see that conflagration in his mirrors... he is coolly parking the car somewhere safe." Murray Walker, San Marino 1985

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yener wrote:Don't even think that they solved their "tyre" issue and they have a good race pace now. Non of the problems are solved.
I suppose you've read some tea leaves? I think what we're all wondering is, "What does new suspension + new tires + 1000km of test time for Pirelli equal?" Hopefully something good.

--Oh, and my favorite F1 team won the Monaco GP, beating Red Bull. I'll get as excited as I dang well please. :wink:

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From Autosport:
• Nico Rosberg posted his third straight pole, elevating Mercedes' current string to four, the best in its history. It recorded the first front-row lockout in Monaco since Ferrari's in 2008. Mercedes is the only team to qualify both its car in the top 10 for every race this season.
That last statistic is impressive. The only way a team like Red Bull, Ferrari, Mercedes, Or Lotus end up outside of the top ten is through screw ups. Things seem to be running smoothly.

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Of course the tyre wear is still a big problem, but compared with last year, they have made a massive step forward.
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It's wonderful how 'brilliant' solutions you can find on the internet:
ban Merc for the next 2-3-5 races
Merc should pay a % of test costs for other teams who want to test
Merc with 1000km-less-test for 2014
and the predictable, Merc out of the championships

I haven't seen in f1technical has created a 'Merc-Pirelli underhand test' threat, it would be a mess!

Btw, Montreal will not be tyre-eater as Barcellona, we'll see how the deg will be in the next few races (Hungary the most important i think), but what i can't explain is Nico's race engineer:
"You had still 50% of tyre life at the front, 60% at the rear"
Lying? Maybe talking in code? e.g. %told via radio is the x3 of the real one (Ferrari talks italian, RB with multi 21-12 etc etc)
And why saying 50&60 while you are at the beginning of a storm about a tyre-test?

P.S. For what i read, i'm all for Merc, only a bit disappointed they used nico&lewis

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Mika1 wrote:Of course the tyre wear is still a big problem, but compared with last year, they have made a massive step forward.
They have a stronger car to quality but they still have the same problems with the rear tyres, so I dont see such a massive improvement.

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Vasconia wrote:
Mika1 wrote:Of course the tyre wear is still a big problem, but compared with last year, they have made a massive step forward.
They have a stronger car to quality but they still have the same problems with the rear tyres, so I dont see such a massive improvement.
there is, 1000 km more then any other teams with direct contact under Pirelli, as driving both Mercedes drivers not Pirelli drivers. but well you can lie to yourself and others as writing that post

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diego.liv wrote:
Btw, Montreal will not be tyre-eater as Barcellona, we'll see how the deg will be in the next few races (Hungary the most important i think)
Ross said we'll see in Silverstone, I assume that's because of the high lateral forces that will go through the tyres.

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"...and there, very much in flames, is Jacques Laffite's Ligier. That's obviously a turbo blaze, and of course, Laffite will be able to see that conflagration in his mirrors... he is coolly parking the car somewhere safe." Murray Walker, San Marino 1985