Mercedes W14

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new front suspension

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SiLo
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Struggling to understand what I am looking at here.
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Exactly. These are as clear as those photos from UFO we usually get...

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I think it's because the Miami one below it shows the floor, yet the new one above appears to show an entirely new sidepod inlet?

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SiLo wrote:
24 May 2023, 12:52
Struggling to understand what I am looking at here.
Top half appears to show a horizontal sidepod entry below the downwash wing structure, compared to the vertical entry in Miami (the bottom half of the picture). Which suggests that they are trying to get some outwash bodywork below the entry along with the downwash wing. Which will be quite something if they've managed it within the fairly restricted rules applying in this volume.
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SiLo wrote:
24 May 2023, 12:59
I think it's because the Miami one below it shows the floor, yet the new one above appears to show an entirely new sidepod inlet?
The Miami one is the downwash wing and the vertical sidepod entry below it. It does, at first glance, look like the floor but it isn't.
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so the midwing is still there and it's the upper part of the sidepod inlet

can they do a scoop under the midwing and the midwing acting as the upper part?

the new sidepod is as large as the midwing
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pursue_one's wrote:
24 May 2023, 12:33
new front suspension

https://i.imgur.com/juCwlmC.jpeg
Is it me, or does that photo seem to suggest a lot of anti dive on the front suspension?

How have they managed to relocate the rear leg of the wishbone that much lower without a chassis change?

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Hopefully this makes sense.
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SiLo
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Actually I think the midwing might be gone... Hard to tell in that photo.
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SiLo wrote:
24 May 2023, 13:14
Actually I think the midwing might be gone... Hard to tell in that photo.
Looks like it has been incorporated as the top of the sidepod inlet.

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Cs98 wrote:
24 May 2023, 13:17
SiLo wrote:
24 May 2023, 13:14
Actually I think the midwing might be gone... Hard to tell in that photo.
Looks like it has been incorporated as the top of the sidepod inlet.
It looks like an inverted Red Bull protruding lip. Overbite rather than underbite.
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Just_a_fan wrote:
24 May 2023, 13:19
Cs98 wrote:
24 May 2023, 13:17
SiLo wrote:
24 May 2023, 13:14
Actually I think the midwing might be gone... Hard to tell in that photo.
Looks like it has been incorporated as the top of the sidepod inlet.
It looks like an inverted Red Bull protruding lip. Overbite rather than underbite.
That midwing is so thick that the sidepod height from the top of the midwing to the bottom of the inlet creates little space for a possible undercut.

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Midwing is gone. Anti-dive front suspension geometry.

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