Red Bull RB6

[univex]

Back to the car finally!

Red Bull looks set to postpone further use of its F-duct until the European Grand Prix in over three weeks time.

http://en.espnf1.com/redbull/motorsport ... 19139.html

[BreezyRacer]

Same article also talks about the RB6's rear suspension was not up to spec ..

"There are also rumours that Red Bull had to change parts of its car in Turkey to conform to technical regulations. Germany's Auto Motor und Sport reports that parts of the rear suspension, hidden behind six burly Red Bull mechanics on the grid at recent grands prix, were aerodynamically shaped and at a 20 degree horizontal angle rather than the allowed five.

In response, Adrian Newey's design team reportedly shrouded the parts with round tubing in order to nullify the downforce-producing effect."

You have to look closely but I think you can see them here in this high res pic on the lower control arm, and maybe the upper one as well.
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/u ... a_2010.jpg

[djos]

Back to the car finally!

Red Bull looks set to postpone further use of its F-duct until the European Grand Prix in over three weeks time.

http://en.espnf1.com/redbull/motorsport ... 19139.html

Bugger!

[BreezyRacer]

Oh 1 more thing .. the cheated up control arms shows you that Red Bull has a chassis that can balance out as much rear downforce that they can engineer into the car and they are doing everything possible to maximize it in race trim, at least at Turkey.

[BreezyRacer]

Damn! Two more things I wanted to mention about the Turkey car ..
First the turning vanes have been greatly reduced in size for this race
Second they have finally added some winglets to the inside of the rear hubs. Nothing like the massive ones that Renault and Mercedes use but it is something new for Red Bull.

[Blackout]

Exactly...
STR added similar winglets in Barcelona...

[Richard]

Same article also talks about the RB6's rear suspension was not up to spec ..

"There are also rumours that Red Bull had to change parts of its car in Turkey to conform to technical regulations. Germany's Auto Motor und Sport reports that parts of the rear suspension, hidden behind six burly Red Bull mechanics on the grid at recent grands prix, were aerodynamically shaped and at a 20 degree horizontal angle rather than the allowed five.

In response, Adrian Newey's design team reportedly shrouded the parts with round tubing in order to nullify the downforce-producing effect."

You have to look closely but I think you can see them here in this high res pic on the lower control arm, and maybe the upper one as well.
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/u ... a_2010.jpg

This pic shows round suspension rods

[segedunum]

Red Bull looks set to postpone further use of its F-duct until the European Grand Prix in over three weeks time.

http://en.espnf1.com/redbull/motorsport ... 19139.html

Well, it is Helmut so take it with a pinch of salt, but I'm not suprised. They need to make absolutely sure this system works and doesn't adversely affect the rest of the car. Montreal will be damage limitation I feel. There just isn't the type of corners there where the RB6 is strong. Post Canada the circuits all look rather better for them.

[WhiteBlue]

The FiA technical report mentions that suspension parts were checked for conformity, but not that RB had to change the pull rods. The AMuS report on the pull rods also mentioned that they got their wrist slapped for for non conforming front wing elements that did not have the required thickness or radii. Those are set to minimum values to avoid carbon shards when wings get damaged.

[myurr]

Red Bull looks set to postpone further use of its F-duct until the European Grand Prix in over three weeks time.

http://en.espnf1.com/redbull/motorsport ... 19139.html

Well, it is Helmut so take it with a pinch of salt, but I'm not suprised. They need to make absolutely sure this system works and doesn't adversely affect the rest of the car. Montreal will be damage limitation I feel. There just isn't the type of corners there where the RB6 is strong. Post Canada the circuits all look rather better for them.

I think Red Bull may actually surprise everyone in Canada. Certainly in Turkey they were saved somewhat from the McLarens by turn 8, which Montreal just does not have, but I think they'll still have the measure of everyone else and are likely to push the McLaren's in qualifying at least.

Never know, McLaren could trip up with a bad setup or something that really shakes things up.

[WhiteBlue]

Marko confirmed again today that Red Bull will not run an F-Duct in Canada.

[godlameroso]

I think that Red Bull won't be doing much in Valencia either, there is only the last couple of turns that require downforce, the rest of the track is stop and go.

[EL_XR6]

I think that Red Bull won't be doing much in Valencia either, there is only the last couple of turns that require downforce, the rest of the track is stop and go.

Although not quite the same, Monaco is stop and go too. I think they'll be ok at Valencia. Montreal will be the first race they won't get pole.

[raymondu999]

Vettel was very close to pole in Singapore and Abu Dhabi, both stop-start-ish tracks though, and I imagine some of that mechanical performance must have been carried through. Valencia is quite similar to Singapore in layout IMO

[Mysticf1]

Redbull could be in trouble approaching the final chicane, a long straight which does not have a fast corner leading to it such as turkey.