Ferrari 150° Italia

[Hush]

I think other teams need to copy this.

Definitely not the first time a team has run this type of device.

Ferrari seem to be doing a good job of copying everybody elses solutions. It seems to be working though.

Who else has?

[Pierce89]

I think other teams need to copy this.

Definitely not the first time a team has run this type of device.

Ferrari seem to be doing a good job of copying everybody elses solutions. It seems to be working though.

Well if it;s not on this forum it doesn't exist in F1

[shelly]

I think other teams need to copy this.

Definitely not the first time a team has run this type of device.

Ferrari seem to be doing a good job of copying everybody elses solutions. It seems to be working though.

Who else has?

Yes, who else?

[Crabbia]

^^ good question...

Sort of looks similar, but the air amplifier needs compressed air to feed around in and around the circumference. It's sort of like a reverse of those Dyson no-fan air movers.

This is how they work:

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I don't think the same thing is going on with the exhaust. It looks more like some expansion chamber or flex joint.

my thoughts is it is a flex joint but in flexing opens up a small hole in the seal of the flex joint. a kind of imperfect flex joint. so under load when the engine shifts slightly a gap opens and air is sucked in by a ventury affect. this way when the car is examinined in park ferme the flex joint looks like a perfect seal and they are not in breach of the 2 outlet rule.

i know this may be utter rubbish since these engines are stressed members so they wont move that much relative to the floor on which it rests but the exhaust is part of the floor in the most recent iteration of their exhaust so they could be using small movements between the exhaust outlet and the headers (the engine and the floor) to create this effect.

one fact is they were running silverstone with no EBD specific engine maps. and they were happy to do so in that they were (with sauber) the ones who objected least and didnt ask for nor recieve concessions for running 50% off throttle maps on the basis of reliability. that makes me think they have something that works like the EBD without the need for engine mapping.

Scarbs posted something like this pre silverstone when the ebd map ban was issued. on page 75ish.

But it could well not be this. it could well be something far more subtle. its going to be interesting to see the performance difference between the F150° and the bulls in GER.

[hardingfv32]

Maybe, since the device draws air in to the exhaust it would not be considered an outlet.

Brian

[triart3d]

Was used in Spain
Barcelona:


And Valencia:



Two hot tracks, and with fast corners.

As ringo says:
"should improve cooling and reduce internal drag.
Mass flow also increased to the exhaust"

It's basically an air extractor. should improve cooling and reduce internal drag.
Mass flow also increased to the exhaust.
I think other teams need to copy this.

[Lorenzo_Bandini]

Valencia is a stop and go track, there is no fast corner

[triart3d]

Valencia is a stop and go track, there is no fast corner

Turn 1, 290Km/h
Turn 6, 240Km/h
Turn 11, 280Km/h
Turn 16, 280Km/h
And sector 3, from turn 18 to 24 are high speed corners. Red bull land.. before Silverstone.

[Lorenzo_Bandini]

BBC F1 pit-lane reporter Ted Kravitz: "Ferrari have further refinements to their exhaust and diffuser in Germany, and it's believed they have a new front wing, even if it hasn't made an appearance in first practice. This is standard operating procedure for Ferrari, who like to establish a baseline and do their aero set-up in first practice, before experimenting with their new bits later on Friday afternoon."

[amouzouris]

so did they test anything new? unfortunately i missed the practises..

[Morteza]

Is this winglet under the mirror new?

[bhall]

Nope.

[Morteza]

Nope.

It reminds me of Ferrari F2008.

[siskue2005]

Valencia is a stop and go track, there is no fast corner

Turn 1, 290Km/h
Turn 6, 240Km/h
Turn 11, 280Km/h
Turn 16, 280Km/h
And sector 3, from turn 18 to 24 are high speed corners. Red bull land.. before Silverstone.

Those are no real corners, they are just kincks
real faster corners are the one like at Spa, Silverstone (first sector old layout)
etc etc

[siskue2005]

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