Ferrari 150° Italia

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Beautiful closeup composition pic!
I'm surprised by
A) the seam in that area of the chassis...never noticed it before or recall seeing one there on any of the other cars
B) the amount of joint gap at top.
Is that just a body panel joint? It certainly can't be a tub seam.

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siskue2005 wrote:
Hush wrote:
hardingfv32 wrote:I think they have been weak all season. They get a win because the competition has a bad pit stop and/or is possibly operating with less than an optimum engine setting.

It was a good win for the team/driver, but hardly evidence that the car has improved.

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i think you are wrong my friend
what hardingfv32 said is absolutely right :)
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New front wing on 2. practice! Bigger picture please!

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does anyone know why didnt they run it at all??

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GTO wrote:
Morteza wrote:Image

Beautiful closeup composition pic!
I'm surprised by
A) the seam in that area of the chassis...never noticed it before or recall seeing one there on any of the other cars
B) the amount of joint gap at top.
Is that just a body panel joint? It certainly can't be a tub seam.
Just a thought regarding the gap at the top, if say there was some form of a flexible joint there, could this be a way to get the whole nose to bend and lower the front wing?

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You're stretching it a bit there. It's just a seam.
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Nah, remeber the 2001 ferrari i think it was that broke in half while being driven by is wealthy private owner in america some where? I recall talking about it in a thread about a year ago and a person in the know explained that ferrari actually have a seam in the tub there that they use in the building process. rarther than a top and bottom molded tub. BUT apparently its usually filled and sanded to show no seam. wonder why? Quick part turn around time maybe? Anyone know if its a new tub?
Also if you think about it, if it were to flex i would say the tea tray is more likely to hit the deck rather than bring the nose down.

One thing i did notice about ferrari in all 3 practice sessions was how low the front wing was. touching under braking in some places! Again you could pull the old redbull BS and say its set up, but i still feel if the height of wings and other apendages should be measured from ground level and not baseline/wheel centerline ect

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This is the rear brake structure: more (1) and wider winglets in a frame (2). + Silverstone diffuser

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seems so, appears to be a new diffusor aswell
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I don't know if it has been discuseed but, does anybody know why ferrari runs such rear anti roll bar?

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As I see it, instead o transmitting motion to the ARB they're transmitting force due to the compression of those springs.


But, why?
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softer operating on tires , especially on fast sweeps .

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Caito wrote:I don't know if it has been discuseed but, does anybody know why ferrari runs such rear anti roll bar?

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As I see it, instead o transmitting motion to the ARB they're transmitting force due to the compression of those springs.


But, why?
It's a dual rate ARB. One rate till the spring is compressed, then another rate.
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Sir Frank Williams after the 2003 Canadian GP, where Ralf hesitated to pass brother M. Schumacher

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What I can't work out is why they are using two spring/damper units instead of just 1 unit, which would be lighter?

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PhillipM wrote:What I can't work out is why they are using two spring/damper units instead of just 1 unit, which would be lighter?
no dampers in the ARB springs, but you need two torsion bars and two dampers one for each wheel
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Bruce McLaren on building his first McLaren racecars, 1970

“I've got to be careful what I say, but possibly to probably Juan would have had a bigger go”
Sir Frank Williams after the 2003 Canadian GP, where Ralf hesitated to pass brother M. Schumacher

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Mazdaboy wrote:This is the rear brake structure: more (1) and wider winglets in a frame (2). + Silverstone diffuser

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Ferrari is not the only team to experiment on the rear brake winglets as HRT , Team Lotus , Williams and Toro Rosso are some other teams that do .
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