2022 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[dialtone]

Either this RW made such a big difference or RB changed their setup for FP2. In FP1 Ferrari was losing anywhere from 5 up to 8 tenths in S3 and now they are gaining on RB and being almost slower in S2. Maybe they can fine tune it a bit, because i am afraid it will hurt them come Sunday. The temperatures falling in the afternoon may have also helped for overall lap time.

Not the right place for this topic. team thread is for performance.

[dialtone]

Either this RW made such a big difference or RB changed their setup for FP2. In FP1 Ferrari was losing anywhere from 5 up to 8 tenths in S3 and now they are gaining on RB and being almost slower in S2. Maybe they can fine tune it a bit, because i am afraid it will hurt them come Sunday. The temperatures falling in the afternoon may have also helped for overall lap time.

RW is different but this track works in both low and medium DF configurations. And Ferrari was running a much lower engine mode in FP1 with barely any battery during the lap.



* Starting speed for Ferrari is slower than speed at finish line, this suggests a bit of margin there, according to delta_time that's about 0.05s
* Similarly in the straight to T3 there's some slower speed compared to RedBull which isn't there in the final straight acceleration and again it's a loss of about 0.05s.
* The loss of RPM at the end of the straights from Ferrari suggests either clipping or a low enough mode, however the loss of RPM doesn't happen in the straight to T15 (3000m distance in the lap).
* On the other hand, RedBull can probably upshift faster than they are doing in this lap, so there's some margin in both cars.
* RedBull is very good in the first 2 corners in S1.
* Other than those points, S1 is basically dead even timing wise.
* In S2 Ferrari manages to build a good lead thanks in large part to better traction out of twisty parts of S2 before again RBR catches up in speed at the end of the straight into T15. Ferrari somehow manages to be both later at braking and earlier on the accelerator.
* Top speed difference at finish line is 332kph for PER and 327 for LEC. Hard to know what causes this, could the engine mode of course, but I think it's more about porpoising and Ferrari might not be able to bridge this top speed gap at the end of the main straight.

Overall I think on the single lap Ferrari may have slightly bigger edge, but it will certainly be very close.



Race sim is a lot closer. According to Sky Italy VER ran with less fuel on board, they had a person in front of the RBR box to check this stuff. The race pace here anyway is very very close between the cars, so it will be a very close race.

Both VER and LEC were told to lift and coast, and VER had newer tyres although just 3 laps younger.

[Sevach]

Charles thinks it's not just drag that hurts their top speed, but the bottoming out/porpoising.

[tpe]

Does a 3 lap Q3 makes sense?
Like save tyres in Q2 and use the extra set to give how to the other driver.

[JPower]

Crazy lap by Charles. He's honestly one of the best qualifiers I've ever seen.

Sainz was close up until that last run couldn't hook it up. It sounds like he's getting more comfortable with the car which is a plus. I noticed that he really took his time to build up through FP3 and Quali this time. I think it'll serve him well.

I really don't have any predictions for tomorrow. Given they are all close in pace, I think any of the top 4 are likely to win. One mistake or safety car can change the entire complexion of the race.

[f1316]

Crazy lap by Charles. He's honestly one of the best qualifiers I've ever seen.

Sainz was close up until that last run couldn't hook it up. It sounds like he's getting more comfortable with the car which is a plus. I noticed that he really took his time to build up through FP3 and Quali this time. I think it'll serve him well.

I really don't have any predictions for tomorrow. Given they are all close in pace, I think any of the top 4 are likely to win. One mistake or safety car can change the entire complexion of the race.

I agree re Charles in quali - he’s consistently Senna-Esque in getting that final run to perfection and finding that additional time when it really matters. He has a great feel for the limit and you can see that earlier in the weekend he’s not having to push as hard as the others to get the lap time - he seems to do a banker for the first run in Q3 and then push to the limit on the second run, where he always has a bit more in hand. Very smart.

I think it’s tempting but false to think his race pace is somehow lacking in comparison - given he’s had so many more poles than wins (I think more poles than Max even). There are at least 5 additional wins (two in the last two races) where all being equal Charles has in his pocket and his incredible quali performances have also sometimes put him in a position the car really isn’t capable of holding for a race distance (not this year but certainly in 2021 and to some extent in 2019 when the Ferrari was not great on tyres).

We’ll see tomorrow - I’d like to see Ferrari do something different with Carlos to throw Red Bull of and split the two pairings (ie force them to cover Carlos with one car).

[GrrG]

The telemetry of the Baku pole: Leclerc on the verge of madness

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[Andi76]

The telemetry of the Baku pole: Leclerc on the verge of madness

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Very interesting! Thank you! Charles is more progressive on the throttle and changes the gears earlier. I think one of the secrets of Ferrari is the driveability of its engine. Thats why they are ahead of everyone else in terms of acceleration out of the corners(not the only reason, but one reason). And Charles makes use of the maximum torque of the engine, thats probably the reason why he is changing gears earlier. Its also very interesting to see that Charles (almost) always keeps the throttle open while breaking. If he stabilises the car with this by reducing the breaking effort of the rear tyres and maintaining the right balance or if the reason is the turbo - i do not know, but as he sometimes opens the throttle on corner entry and sometimes before corner exit - i assume its more for balance reasons. But he is clearly "steering the car on throttle" as he always keeps the throttle open slightly. But i am not an expert in that regard, so some of my thoughts may be wrong. Perez is totally different as there is almost zero progression on the throttle, its almost like full throttle or zero throttle only. As i am not an expert in that regard, i wonder how this is possible without traction-control? He must lose traction sometimes with this approach.

[JPower]

Sainz’s luck this year has been horrific.

[JPower]

Aaaaand when it rains it pours. Sheesh. Pack it up boys.

[F1NAC]

It was fun til it lasted

[chrisc90]

Ferrari PU seems very fast, but very highly strung. Going to be costly with a penalty down the line

[wickedz50]

Simply unbelieveable

[Schippke]

Well... I cannot see Ferrari coming back from this one now. Speed is one thing, but now we've got the reliability issues.

It's almost like the roles in the first 3 races have reversed... Red Bull with reliability issues, but overall the faster race car. Now, Ferrari has a solid race car too overall... but now reliability is our issue.

Mark my words... if Ferrari end up winning this championship (Drivers and/or Constructors), I will eat my shoes.

[JPBD1990]

I would cry if it wasn’t the third time in a row… I’m numb to the pain now. Deep sigh. Deep. Sigh.