2022 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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Gillian
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Real shame for Leclerc. I've been critical of him but he was phenomenal yesterday so to see another pole convert to 0... Terrible

dialtone
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Time to use the reliability upgrade because clearly with all the Ferrari failures there's something wrong there. Send those documents to the FIA right away Mattia Binotto.

dfegan358
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It’s disappointing, the reality is this championship is over as one of red bull will win it. Constructors over as well. Ferrari need to sort reliability. Fast car no use if can’t last the distance.

Alonsismo
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Sainz luck does not exist this season...
OMG

Fer.Fan
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dialtone wrote:
12 Jun 2022, 13:56
Time to use the reliability upgrade because clearly with all the Ferrari failures there's something wrong there. Send those documents to the FIA right away Mattia Binotto.
If LEC takes new PU for Canada he will start back of the grid.
2022 RedBull is dominates allready, 6 wins of 8.

dialtone
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Fer.Fan wrote:
12 Jun 2022, 14:00
dialtone wrote:
12 Jun 2022, 13:56
Time to use the reliability upgrade because clearly with all the Ferrari failures there's something wrong there. Send those documents to the FIA right away Mattia Binotto.
If LEC takes new PU for Canada he will start back of the grid.
2022 RedBull is dominates allready, 6 wins of 8.
No he won't, he still has the 3rd PU available for every component but the TC, plus the 1st PU he used in Monaco.

Schippke
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Is it possible that all this porposing that the F1-75 is suffering could be an added reliability strain on the components?

In saying that, I guess it wouldn't really explain the issues the Alfa Romeo's and Haas are (and maybe) suffering too...

wowgr8
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Everything is going up in smoke, it isn't just the ICE, it's the MGU-H, K, turbo, the only part of the engine that seems reliable is the ES and CE.

Said it before but Duchessa kept stressing there were worries about reliability during the winter and it's manifested itself during the season, price to pay for pushing so hard to find power, which they had to do, 2019 still haunting Ferrari.

I think the title is a pipe dream now, I don't think these reliability issues will vanish and both drivers have penalties to come. Taking a big picture look at it this season was always about rebuilding for Ferrari, a championship challenge came ahead of schedule and it's showing.

wowgr8
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Schippke wrote:
12 Jun 2022, 14:03
Is it possible that all this porposing that the F1-75 is suffering could be an added reliability strain on the components?

In saying that, I guess it wouldn't really explain the issues the Alfa Romeo's and Haas are (and maybe) suffering too...
Sainz's problem was hydraulic, with that I assume the porpoising played a role. Leclerc's H failure in Spain I don't think had to do with porpoising.

Alfa don't have porpoising issues like Haas and Ferrari do yet they've had the worst of the reliability issues.

dfegan358
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Yeah Ferrari made a leap forward but more progress needed on reliability, strategy and execution to compete over the season. Was hoping for a season long battle unlikely now

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F1NAC
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Next race Canada.... if turbo or H went that is a penalty for Charles..

Too bad that it is next week ...

wowgr8
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It's good that it's next week. Sitting with Monaco for 2 weeks was painful, at least the next race comes soon to get the bad taste out... unless he has another DNF in Canada of course.

Andi76
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Its really a shame. Finally Ferrari has a great car again, probably the fastest car, but the fastest car is not enough to win the championship. Fighting for a F1 Championship is only possible if you are perfect in every area. Ferrari is not there yet, obviously. Race Pace, Race Strategy, Reliability, organisation are still areas where Ferrari has to improve. They need to keep a methodical approach to gain the last few percentages you need to win a F1 Championship. Unfortunalety, as only the F1-75 is a car as fast as the Red Bull, 2022 championship will not be a close fight and an easy one for Red Bull. But anyway - as porpoising was back in Baku and Ferrari was affected- i assume the reliability issues may probably have something to do with that, as there were totally different problems with Ferrari and Ferrari supplied parts in teams who also had porpoising. At the end of the day Binotto was right to say that the goal for 2022 is not winning the championship. Ferrari still needs to improve in several areas, after years of bad management.

wickedz50
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Andi76 wrote:
12 Jun 2022, 14:31
Its really a shame. Finally Ferrari has a great car again, probably the fastest car, but the fastest car is not enough to win the championship. Fighting for a F1 Championship is only possible if you are perfect in every area. Ferrari is not there yet, obviously. Race Pace, Race Strategy, Reliability, organisation are still areas where Ferrari has to improve. They need to keep a methodical approach to gain the last few percentages you need to win a F1 Championship. Unfortunalety, as only the F1-75 is a car as fast as the Red Bull, 2022 championship will not be a close fight and an easy one for Red Bull. But anyway - as porpoising was back in Baku and Ferrari was affected- i assume the reliability issues may probably have something to do with that, as there were totally different problems with Ferrari and Ferrari supplied parts in teams who also had porpoising. At the end of the day Binotto was right to say that the goal for 2022 is not winning the championship. Ferrari still needs to improve in several areas, after years of bad management.
I sometimes ask the question that does the porpoising effect the PU in a negative way? is porpoising a big reason for the PU failure? does this mean that Merc is running the car/PU in conservative manner to avoid these type of failures with their PU?
I am scratching my head here.
Never mind whatever expectations were there from Ferrari for 2022 its over now.

Andi76
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wickedz50 wrote:
12 Jun 2022, 14:37
Andi76 wrote:
12 Jun 2022, 14:31
Its really a shame. Finally Ferrari has a great car again, probably the fastest car, but the fastest car is not enough to win the championship. Fighting for a F1 Championship is only possible if you are perfect in every area. Ferrari is not there yet, obviously. Race Pace, Race Strategy, Reliability, organisation are still areas where Ferrari has to improve. They need to keep a methodical approach to gain the last few percentages you need to win a F1 Championship. Unfortunalety, as only the F1-75 is a car as fast as the Red Bull, 2022 championship will not be a close fight and an easy one for Red Bull. But anyway - as porpoising was back in Baku and Ferrari was affected- i assume the reliability issues may probably have something to do with that, as there were totally different problems with Ferrari and Ferrari supplied parts in teams who also had porpoising. At the end of the day Binotto was right to say that the goal for 2022 is not winning the championship. Ferrari still needs to improve in several areas, after years of bad management.
I sometimes ask the question that does the porpoising effect the PU in a negative way? is porpoising a big reason for the PU failure? does this mean that Merc is running the car/PU in conservative manner to avoid these type of failures with their PU?
I am scratching my head here.
Never mind whatever expectations were there from Ferrari for 2022 its over now.

First i would not say its over now. Its still a long way to go and many races left. And things can change very fast in F1. But to be honest - i do not really expect Ferrari really to challenge Red Bull. The team itself and the organisation is not at the top-level yet. But the car is fast, probably faster than the Red Bull, so if Ferrari is able to improve in the areas they are lacking - evetything is still possible, even if i have my doubts that they will be able to improve in these areas as fast as they need to challenge Red Bull for the title.

If porpoising finally is the root of the reliability problems at Baku - only Ferrari can tell this after they analysed all the failures. But porpoising and the oscilations are definetely not something thats good from the reliability point of view. Porpoising can cause a clamp to get loose what can result in a failure in the hydraulic system for sure. It probably can cause vibrations with negative effects on the ICE and other components of the powertrain. But at the end of the day only Ferrari can tell if porpoising, quality control, a supplier, a mechanic or a design or construction problem is to blame for the failures.
As Ferrari had several different reliability problems one can only hope that porpoising caused all of them - because if is not - its nothing that can be fixed untill Canada.