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bhallg2k wrote:So maybe it's not a hole.
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But on that pic the DRS acutator doesnt even have the hole, diff RW ?

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Huntresa wrote:
bhallg2k wrote:So maybe it's not a hole.
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But on that pic the DRS acutator doesnt even have the hole, diff RW ?
Amen,,,, no Hole in slot gap separator, no hole on endplate,,,, reflection?
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One more time, for posterity.

So, maybe it's not a hole.
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Finally! I am no longer condemned!
there is no outlet on the rear wing, it is a fluidic switch for the duct
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But where does the god damn reflection come from then ? If there isnt a thing on the DRS that can make it ? And its there out on track and out of the pits.
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Huntresa wrote:But where does the god damn reflection come from then ? If there isnt a thing on the DRS that can make it ?
slot gap separator
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That there's no hole where we originally thought one existed doesn't change my mind that they're doing something with, not because of, the rear wing. There's no other reason to disrupt the air flow on the underside of the main plane with a duct. All DRS actuation ducts can be placed within the end plates just like on the W03.

We just need better pictures.

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N12ck wrote:
Huntresa wrote:But where does the god damn reflection come from then ? If there isnt a thing on the DRS that can make it ?
slot gap separator

The hole is clearly taller then the slot gap seperator.

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I stand by my original theory, duct to diffuser when DRS is closed, duct to beam wing when open,
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But wasnt it stated before that the diffuser downforce is almost drag free ? So moving the air from the diffuser top to the beam wing would amount to the same amount of drag when DRS is open.

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Guys, you were looking for hole too high.Lotus' holes are not as high as Mercedes' and they are not covered by DRS flap.They are on MAIN REAR WING PROFILE (NOT THE DRS FLAP).You just have to look lower.It can't be reflection.Don't force me to render E20 in 3Ds Max. :D
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As I see it Its got nothing to do with rear wing. When DRS is opened central (otherwise unneeded) wing support mechanically opens air flow through their new central vent that is directed at reducing downforce.

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Huntresa wrote:But wasnt it stated before that the diffuser downforce is almost drag free ? So moving the air from the diffuser top to the beam wing would amount to the same amount of drag when DRS is open.
The high pressure air comes from the roll hoop,

that high pressure air is blown over the top of the diffuser increasing downforce,

when the DRS opens on the straight, the air that would go to the top of the diffuser from the roll hoop goes to the beam wing
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MarkedOne8 wrote:Scarbs is for sure one of the best ones for this job, but he is human.He can make mistake just as every one of us can.No?

It is not reflection.There must be a PERFECT source of light on the other side.IT IS A HOLE.

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..that is quite clearly a reflection - from the silver piece running above it. you can even see the outline of that silver bit and the curve is a perfect....reflection....of the bit you've circled.

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Huntresa wrote:
bhallg2k wrote:So maybe it's not a hole.
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But on that pic the DRS acutator doesnt even have the hole, diff RW ?
this picture confirms again that its a reflection. they weren't running different wings - and if they are going to be running different wings.....putting the flo paint on the Trick new rear wing would make more sense.... and as you can see, once the paint is on - voila - the reflection is gone. because its not a hole.