The 2016 F1 WDC Title Dumpster Topic

[zeph]

Congrats to Rosberg. No, he doesn't have Hamilton's natural ability, but he won the championship (just like his dad did) in the only way possible: by being consistent, and capitalizing on his teammate's misfortune and mistakes.

I don't think that devalues his achievement in any way. Everybody knows that Hamilton has him beat any old day of the week, all things being equal. So you have to respect how he managed to keep it together all year long to finally bag the title.

While 2015 was pretty much a walkover for Hamilton, 2014 went down the wire and it was Rosberg's bad luck in the final race that decided the outcome. So I don't think anybody can honestly say he doesn't deserve it.

Hamilton has nothing to feel bad about, really. He broke all kinds of records this year, and his status as one of the greats is undisputed.

[Restomaniac]

Congrats to Rosberg. No, he doesn't have Hamilton's natural ability, but he won the championship (just like his dad did) in the only way possible: by being consistent, and capitalizing on his teammate's misfortune and mistakes.

I don't think that devalues his achievement in any way. Everybody knows that Hamilton has him beat any old day of the week, all things being equal. So you have to respect how he managed to keep it together all year long to finally bag the title.

While 2015 was pretty much a walkover for Hamilton, 2014 went down the wire and it was Rosberg's bad luck in the final race that decided the outcome. So I don't think anybody can honestly say he doesn't deserve it.

Hamilton has nothing to feel bad about, really. He broke all kinds of records this year, and his status as one of the greats is undisputed.

Re 2014. No it didn't. Hamilton was already beating him on the track before Rosbergs engine fault. So to say Rosberg's bad luck caused it is stretching the point until it snaps.

[dans79]

The only thing that's hilarious is you people who think Mercedes are sabotaging Hamilton after they gave him two championships already. Sour losers when you don't have it go your way have a great winter guys!

Do you have poor reading comprehension, who said they sabotaged him? What they did was fail him with a litany of reliability issues.

• ERS failure at the start of qualifying in China, started 22nd
• ERS failure during Q3 in Russia, started 10th
• zero water pressure for the last 16 laps in Russia, preventing him challenging for the win.
• incorrect engine mapping in Baku, that prevented him from being able to maximize the car
• hydraulics fault during fp2 in Singapore that seriously compromised his ability to work out a set-up
• had to start dead last in Belgium because of the above reliability issues.
• An engine failure while leading the race in Malaysia.

[zeph]

Your delusional is what's really obvious. Nico lost the championship at the last race because of reliability and where were you then? Too busy celebrating? Nobody screamed this kind of bull back then only when it happens to Lewis.

Lost it? If I recall he was behind Lewis at the time his engine gave up... it's the details you're willing to overlook that add to the hilarity.

The only thing that's hilarious is you people who think Mercedes are sabotaging Hamilton after they gave him two championships already. Sour losers when you don't have it go your way have a great winter guys!

I don't necessarily think they sabotaged him, but I do think a Rosberg WDC is more valuable to the brand after Hamilton's back-to-back. Having both drivers win the title confirms how great their car is.

[dans79]

This is how high end athletes work/think, in a sport like this. On the track everyone around you is the enemy.

OK, that's fine. So you punch the enemy in the face if you are angry at him. Or at least do something.

I'm pretty sure the FIA would frown upon that!

[zeph]

Congrats to Rosberg. No, he doesn't have Hamilton's natural ability, but he won the championship (just like his dad did) in the only way possible: by being consistent, and capitalizing on his teammate's misfortune and mistakes.

I don't think that devalues his achievement in any way. Everybody knows that Hamilton has him beat any old day of the week, all things being equal. So you have to respect how he managed to keep it together all year long to finally bag the title.

While 2015 was pretty much a walkover for Hamilton, 2014 went down the wire and it was Rosberg's bad luck in the final race that decided the outcome. So I don't think anybody can honestly say he doesn't deserve it.

Hamilton has nothing to feel bad about, really. He broke all kinds of records this year, and his status as one of the greats is undisputed.

Re 2014. No it didn't. Hamilton was already beating him on the track before Rosbergs engine fault. So to say Rosberg's bad luck caused it is stretching the point until it snaps.

Yeah, fair enough. But my point still holds, I think.

[nevill3]

I personally do not think Mercedes had a favourite, their team orders/rules insist that each driver must obey team orders if a race win is in danger of being lost. The guys on the pitwall obviuosly saaw Vettell's speed and knew he would catch the leaders. Hence the call to speed things up. That is their normal strategy so was to be expected. Hamilton had been warned before the race that Nico would be pitted first if Hamilton was backing him into the pack to preserve the teams chances of winning with a 1 & 2 places.

No favoritism just good robust team rules that were applied in every race (remember Monaco) Hamilton decided to ignore the order to speed up because he wanted to win the WDC, Rosberg urged the team to ask Hamilton to speed up because he too wanted to win the WDC.
The winners mentality dictated Hamilton's speed it was all he could do within the rules.

There is an interesting story breaking that Hamilton handed in his notice and said he would not drive for Mercedes again after the Spanish GP..........May be more will come of this later!!!!!

[dans79]

There is an interesting story breaking that Hamilton handed in his notice and said he would not drive for Mercedes again after the Spanish GP..........May be more will come of this later!!!!!

That sounds like BS, because odds are Merc still has the best car next year.

[basti313]

There are more Lewis haters than there are Nico fans.

Dunno...I think there are more Lewis Fanboys haters than Nico fans. I think Lewis does not deserve this fanbase, especially not on this forums. Today we see it again: It is not how you win, but how you loose that defines a sportsman.

Nico is going to savor his championship just as if he'd won it for real. Why would you need to be so upset about how he won it?

Why should he? It is "MOTORsports". With MOTOR comming first. So if you motor fails, this is part of the game. No need to discuss about anything if you drive the most reliable and at the same time most dominant car in F1 history.

[Restomaniac]

There is an interesting story breaking that Hamilton handed in his notice and said he would not drive for Mercedes again after the Spanish GP..........May be more will come of this later!!!!!

That sounds like BS, because odds are Merc still has the best car next year.

I wouldn't put money in that.

[RedNEO]

The only thing that's hilarious is you people who think Mercedes are sabotaging Hamilton after they gave him two championships already. Sour losers when you don't have it go your way have a great winter guys!

Do you have poor reading comprehension, who said they sabotaged him? What they did was fail him with a litany of reliability issues.

• ERS failure at the start of qualifying in China, started 22nd
• ERS failure during Q3 in Russia, started 10th
• zero water pressure for the last 16 laps in Russia, preventing him challenging for the win.
• incorrect engine mapping in Baku, that prevented him from being able to maximize the car
• hydraulics fault during fp2 in Singapore that seriously compromised his ability to work out a set-up
• had to start dead last in Belgium because of the above reliability issues.
• An engine failure while leading the race in Malaysia.

Your head must be firmly buried somewhere if you haven't seen the surge of comments from disgruntled ham fans all year screaming sabotage. I don't know what you want me to say when you talk like the world is against Hamilton like that. It's ridiculous, build a bridge and get over it.

[dans79]

. It's ridiculous, build a bridge and get over it.

Millennial?

[Pierce89]

Sorry to be a wet blanket to the burning Louie love, but Hamilton only had one competitor all year and he failed to beat him.

[Restomaniac]

Sorry to be a wet blanket to the burning Louie love, but Hamilton only had one competitor all year and he failed to beat him.

No he did beat him 10 times to 9 and 11 times to 8.
He also beat him in the needing engines stakes 8 engines to 5 as well.

[Peter1919]

Whist I agree that Lewis was unlucky with reliability issues and Rosberg very lucky to avoid any but Lewis could still have won the title easily if he did not mess up so many starts. So he is still partly to blame for Nico winning the title not him.