2017 F1 general testing thread

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Re: 2017 F1 Pre-season testing February 27 - March 2/ March 7-10

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> There are 3 Ferrari powered teams.

To be fair there are 2 teams running 2017 Ferrari engines, one running the very well understood 2016 version not serving up useful data.
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Re: 2017 F1 Pre-season testing February 27 - March 2/ March 7-10

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Looks like Mercedes are planning to "take the mick" again by logging a ridiculous number of laps. Bottas is already up to full race distance.

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Re: 2017 F1 Pre-season testing February 27 - March 2/ March 7-10

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Mclaren starts to work on the car now...
https://twitter.com/piusgasso/status/836178832575119361
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Re: 2017 F1 Pre-season testing February 27 - March 2/ March 7-10

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That looks very planted and stable ... and for Mclaren .. no crosswinds :D

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Re: 2017 F1 Pre-season testing February 27 - March 2/ March 7-10

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GoranF1 wrote:Mclaren starts to work on the car now...

https://twitter.com/piusgasso/status/836178832575119361
Is there an hydraulic heave damper on this Maca ?

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Re: 2017 F1 Pre-season testing February 27 - March 2/ March 7-10

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Diesel wrote:
ForMuLaOne wrote:If the top speeds reported at f1.today are accurate we are about to see massive times. Vettel is doing 1.22,791 at a top speed of 279.7km/h. That´s insane if you consider 2016 times ( all around 1.22 ) were with top speeds well above 330km/h.

So teams are setting serious times while coasting down the straights. I am curious where we will end up today, knowing that teams are not even thinking about going quick.

2017 might become very cool again =D>
What makes you think they are coasting? Considering the additional drag this year, is 330km/h likely? I think not...
Just wanted to highlight the gap in performance they create vs. 2016 specs. Achieving the same lap time with an almost 20% deficit in top speeds is quite an achievement. Given the additional cornering speed (which makes them quicker at the straights as well) and increased PU Power (which helps to run different gear ratios) i would rather think about top speeds in the 320km/h region at best lap time level. I believe they will hit these speeds for sure.

If we see this year´s Formula One cars struggling to hit the 300km/h barrier at almost every track i would be very astonished and disappointed. Imagine Monza or Mexico at 310 km/h opposed to 370 km/h on the long straights. Not going to happen...

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Re: 2017 F1 Pre-season testing February 27 - March 2/ March 7-10

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He's not really pushing, not much acceleration out of the corner. Looks very smooth though, but it is just a testing program, not qualy laps.
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Re: 2017 F1 Pre-season testing February 27 - March 2/ March 7-10

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Bit of a brown trouser moment for Magnussen - he's planted the Haas in the barrier. Only a couple of minutes after the guys on Autosport said it looked "stable" :)

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Anthropolyte wrote:Bit of a brown trouser moment for Magnussen - he's planted the Haas in the barrier. Only a couple of minutes after the guys on Autosport said it looked "stable" :)
I think he wants to be first in the lunch queue! :mrgreen:
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Re: 2017 F1 Pre-season testing February 27 - March 2/ March 7-10

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"A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool."~William Shakespeare

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"11:55 Looking at Bottas's previous run on softs, which included 16 timed laps, it doesn't look like tyre degradation is particularly under control. Taking his first laptime, a 1m23.4s, then factoring in fuel-load reduction on each subsequent lap, you can work out what the tyre degradation is. After 16 flying laps, he's a total 17.45s slower than he would be with the tyre degradation removed. So that's just under 1.1s per lap lost on average. Some of that could be in set-up or the way he's driving, but that doesn't come close to low-degradation to my mind.
Gary Anderson"


But, Mr. Anderson, he's running softs at Barcelona which is a high deg circuit for tyres of that compound - and he's locking up, which shows pushing. That in mind, it ain't too bad.

Even then, the real point is: is it quicker to push or quicker to conserve? So long as it's quicker to push, then it doesn't matter if there's some drop off (probably better for # of stops etc.)

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Re: 2017 F1 Pre-season testing February 27 - March 2/ March 7-10

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Autosport seem a bit "off" today to be honest - Ben Anderson said the following at 11:30am:
11:30 A Mercedes on softs - this should be a bit more interesting...
Er he's been running softs all day, Ben.

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Re: 2017 F1 Pre-season testing February 27 - March 2/ March 7-10

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It's to soon to make some conclusions, but it's nice to see that Ferrari and Mercedes are running trouble free and with a good pace. I hope to see Red Bull in the afternoon.

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Re: 2017 F1 Pre-season testing February 27 - March 2/ March 7-10

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The morning session results

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