2022 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, July 01 - 03

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Guess those documents have been released?

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RicerDude wrote:
01 Jul 2022, 11:25
langedweil wrote:
30 Jun 2022, 23:26
Asked whether he wanted to send a message to fans at Zandvoort to show more respect for his title rival this weekend, Verstappen said the booing was inevitable.
"I look at it like this, when you go to a football match, you come into the home ground, the opposition will be booed at some point and it's not up to the local club to go on to the speakers and say 'guys, you cannot boo,' as it will naturally happen," Verstappen said.
And it's really no more than that ..
I don’t remember booing being a thing pre Seb Vettels Redbull years? I’m probably wrong but Schumacher was never booed during his Ferrari dominance?
It shouldn’t be accepted as ‘inevitable’. Motorsport fans and football fans are totally different and you can’t draw comparisons between the two. I’m not being classist, it’s just true.
Easy pick > Austria 2002, when Barrichello handed over a win to him. But I remember couple of more events.

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hollus wrote:
01 Jul 2022, 00:43
Just for the record, the full forum aspires to be technical. The race threads… we just can’t contain the flood and pick our battles.
If you don’t want technical, why here? There are plenty of forums.
They're probably banned in those other places...

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RicerDude wrote:
01 Jul 2022, 11:25
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I don’t remember booing being a thing pre Seb Vettels Redbull years? I’m probably wrong but Schumacher was never booed during his Ferrari dominance?
It shouldn’t be accepted as ‘inevitable’. Motorsport fans and football fans are totally different and you can’t draw comparisons between the two. I’m not being classist, it’s just true.
You're speaking of a small group of the motorsports fan community that is different. The majority now of F1 fans, which has been even further established thanks to DTS, are no different than the standard football fan. Very biased. Very opinionated. Treat everything with blinders on.

And to be clear I'm not referring to anyone in this forum, just speaking about the "new" average fan. Just take a look at any other forums or even comments within the official F1 twitter account's posts. It's basically a bunch of one sided, hot take, many times nasty, garbage.

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langedweil wrote:
30 Jun 2022, 23:26
Asked whether he wanted to send a message to fans at Zandvoort to show more respect for his title rival this weekend, Verstappen said the booing was inevitable.
"I look at it like this, when you go to a football match, you come into the home ground, the opposition will be booed at some point and it's not up to the local club to go on to the speakers and say 'guys, you cannot boo,' as it will naturally happen," Verstappen said.
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And it's really no more than that ..
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It is more than that.
What Max says there is about a football match between two rival clubs whose opponents are the direct opponents that must be defeated. That sometimes causes boo calls.

In this case, the Silverstone GP, it was Lewis's supporters who shouted boo to Max, one of the 19 other drivers.
Why actually?
Max is not a rival to Lewis at all. Lewis is currently not competing for the World Cup at all, so he has nothing to fear from Max.
At the moment it is between Ferrari and RBR and in particular between Leclerc and Max.
The Ferrari fans in the stands don't boo Max, do they?!
You would rather expect Russell to get boo, because that is Lewis' direct rival.
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Wouter wrote:
01 Jul 2022, 12:14
langedweil wrote:
30 Jun 2022, 23:26
Asked whether he wanted to send a message to fans at Zandvoort to show more respect for his title rival this weekend, Verstappen said the booing was inevitable.
"I look at it like this, when you go to a football match, you come into the home ground, the opposition will be booed at some point and it's not up to the local club to go on to the speakers and say 'guys, you cannot boo,' as it will naturally happen," Verstappen said.
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And it's really no more than that ..
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It is more than that.
What Max says there is about a football match between two rival clubs whose opponents are the direct opponents that must be defeated. That sometimes causes boo calls.

In this case, the Silverstone GP, it was Lewis's supporters who shouted boo to Max, one of the 19 other drivers.
Why actually?
Max is not a rival to Lewis at all. Lewis is currently not competing for the World Cup at all, so he has nothing to fear from Max.
At the moment it is between Ferrari and RBR and in particular between Leclerc and Max.
The Ferrari fans in the stands don't boo Max, do they?!
You would rather expect Russell to get boo, because that is Lewis' direct rival.
I suspect that you’re overlooking the elephant in the room which is Max’s comments relating to his father in law’s views towards Lewis and his subsequent dismissal of them as “no biggie”.

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Wouter wrote:
01 Jul 2022, 12:14
langedweil wrote:
30 Jun 2022, 23:26
Asked whether he wanted to send a message to fans at Zandvoort to show more respect for his title rival this weekend, Verstappen said the booing was inevitable.
"I look at it like this, when you go to a football match, you come into the home ground, the opposition will be booed at some point and it's not up to the local club to go on to the speakers and say 'guys, you cannot boo,' as it will naturally happen," Verstappen said.
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And it's really no more than that ..
.
It is more than that.
What Max says there is about a football match between two rival clubs whose opponents are the direct opponents that must be defeated. That sometimes causes boo calls.

In this case, the Silverstone GP, it was Lewis's supporters who shouted boo to Max, one of the 19 other drivers.
Why actually?
Max is not a rival to Lewis at all. Lewis is currently not competing for the World Cup at all, so he has nothing to fear from Max.
At the moment it is between Ferrari and RBR and in particular between Leclerc and Max.
The Ferrari fans in the stands don't boo Max, do they?!
You would rather expect Russell to get boo, because that is Lewis' direct rival.
That’s why ADO supporters are always welcoming AJAX in The Hague, oh wait…

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Not a massive amount distant from the track & we’ve just had a short rain shower.
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Interesting all the cut outs and bits on the merc floor. I thought having cuts was pretty restricted.
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RicerDude wrote:
01 Jul 2022, 11:25
langedweil wrote:
30 Jun 2022, 23:26
Asked whether he wanted to send a message to fans at Zandvoort to show more respect for his title rival this weekend, Verstappen said the booing was inevitable.
"I look at it like this, when you go to a football match, you come into the home ground, the opposition will be booed at some point and it's not up to the local club to go on to the speakers and say 'guys, you cannot boo,' as it will naturally happen," Verstappen said.
And it's really no more than that ..
I don’t remember booing being a thing pre Seb Vettels Redbull years? I’m probably wrong but Schumacher was never booed during his Ferrari dominance?
It shouldn’t be accepted as ‘inevitable’. Motorsport fans and football fans are totally different and you can’t draw comparisons between the two. I’m not being classist, it’s just true.
The year that ‘Our Nige’ picked up Ayrton on the slow-down lap (‘92, I think), there was a gallows in the crowd with an Ayrton mannequin (with race-suit, helmet, etc) hanging from it. ‘Our Nige’ picked him up because it looked as though Ayrton could be in real trouble….

The British media helped to create a real mob mentality back then.
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Stu wrote:
01 Jul 2022, 13:47
RicerDude wrote:
01 Jul 2022, 11:25
langedweil wrote:
30 Jun 2022, 23:26


And it's really no more than that ..
I don’t remember booing being a thing pre Seb Vettels Redbull years? I’m probably wrong but Schumacher was never booed during his Ferrari dominance?
It shouldn’t be accepted as ‘inevitable’. Motorsport fans and football fans are totally different and you can’t draw comparisons between the two. I’m not being classist, it’s just true.
The year that ‘Our Nige’ picked up Ayrton on the slow-down lap (‘92, I think), there was a gallows in the crowd with an Ayrton mannequin (with race-suit, helmet, etc) hanging from it. ‘Our Nige’ picked him up because it looked as though Ayrton could be in real trouble….

The British media helped to create a real mob mentality back then.
I remember that .. that was some weird stuff!
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Merc was sparking intermittently down the straight just there?

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organic wrote:
01 Jul 2022, 14:02
Merc was sparking intermittently down the straight just there?
Yes, car was already bottoming out several times on the first straight even with rain setup.