McLaren MCL60

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nope, is still there just difficult to see
Blackout wrote:
21 Feb 2023, 13:41
Did they ditch the RB dip on the sidepod shoulders?

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It's amazing taking into consideration the MP4-26's tunnel sidepods, swooping design and high shoulders that McLaren didn't jump the gun with this design philosophy.

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The MP4-26 would have dominated last season :lol:

Edit:
Looking at this wiki page:

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/McLaren_MP4-26

the tunnels are so reminiscent of the current designs.

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lol, i thought the vindow was dirty but mclaren has in fact blurred out the floor edges, nice if finally they have something they want to hide

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f1rules wrote:
21 Feb 2023, 14:47
lol, i thought the vindow was dirty but mclaren has in fact blurred out the floor edges, nice if finally they have something they want to hide
I guess last season at Barcelona Ferrari had a floor edge like McLaren used on their car by the end of testing. They don't want a repeat haha

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f1rules wrote:
21 Feb 2023, 14:47
lol, i thought the vindow was dirty but mclaren has in fact blurred out the floor edges, nice if finally they have something they want to hide
Yeah, it means that this is still a blur, but I thought this glass distorts so much. #-o :lol:

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organic wrote:
21 Feb 2023, 13:36
Very raspy sounding Mercedes engine I wonder if McLaren have altered exhaust layout slightly also noticed they blurred the floor out

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haza wrote:
21 Feb 2023, 15:24
organic wrote:
21 Feb 2023, 13:36
Very raspy sounding Mercedes engine I wonder if McLaren have altered exhaust layout slightly also noticed they blurred the floor out
How odd. The floor does seem blurred relative to other parts of the car.

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Isn't the blur just as its filmed through the glass?

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djones wrote:
21 Feb 2023, 15:58
Isn't the blur just as its filmed through the glass?
no

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djones wrote:
21 Feb 2023, 15:58
Isn't the blur just as its filmed through the glass?
No, I thought it might be, but the problem is the front wing and the rear wing look clear through the glass. The floor is also still blurred when the car moves out from under the glass.

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Outer floor strake is rather extended compared to last years floor

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haza wrote:
21 Feb 2023, 16:20
Outer floor strake is rather extended compared to last years floor
Could you whip up a comparison?

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organic wrote:
21 Feb 2023, 16:22
haza wrote:
21 Feb 2023, 16:20
Outer floor strake is rather extended compared to last years floor
Could you whip up a comparison?
Visually looks about double the size. My guess is to reduce influence of front tire wake under yaw

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101FlyingDutchman wrote:
21 Feb 2023, 16:24
organic wrote:
21 Feb 2023, 16:22
haza wrote:
21 Feb 2023, 16:20
Outer floor strake is rather extended compared to last years floor
Could you whip up a comparison?
Visually looks about double the size. My guess is to reduce influence of front tire wake under yaw
Likely also to make up for having the large undercut instead of the bluff sidepods of last year.

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McLarenMor wrote:
21 Feb 2023, 14:18
It's amazing taking into consideration the MP4-26's tunnel sidepods, swooping design and high shoulders that McLaren didn't jump the gun with this design philosophy.

https://hips.hearstapps.com/es.h-cdn.co ... size=980:*

The MP4-26 would have dominated last season :lol:

Edit:
Looking at this wiki page:

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/McLaren_MP4-26

the tunnels are so reminiscent of the current designs.
Actually this "no spill over"-design was innovated by Rory Byrne with the championship winning Benetton B194 :

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Rory Byrne later improved that design on the WCC-winning Ferrari F399:

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It's probably no coincidence that Ferrari's design team listened closely to the advice of someone named Rory Byrne on the car that produced the last evolution of such sidepods.

David Sanchez, the creator of these sidepods on the McLaren MP4-26, like many F1 designers and engineers, copied one of Rory Byrne's numerous ideas. Since David Sanchez is now an aerodynamicist and chief of vehicle concepts for the Ferrari team, advised by Rory Byrne, one could say that this evolution is almost a logical consequence of this constellation.