woocasz wrote: ↑07 Jan 2025, 13:21
CMSMJ1 wrote: ↑07 Jan 2025, 13:03
RonMexico wrote: ↑07 Jan 2025, 12:33
Why are all the top chess players men?
Not replying at you RonMexico but this is my own view and your question is a good one to go from
It's easy to see in this thread that the world remains a "white man's" and any deviation from that and the heavy weight of that needs to be shed before any 'progress' can be made.
Men have all the opportunity, all the role models and the societal structure to do it. I know I can pretty much do whatever I want to in the world.
Non White men have some of the same masculine privilige but in some areas there is yet racism holding the invisible hand
Women - they've had it hard forever....and with atitudes that they cannot do 'X' because they could not beat a man, or shall not do 'Y' because they might not look nice doing it?? WTF...
Maybe we are so far at the start of the curve for equal opportunity we just cannot see what the end looks like?
Have you ever heard of such a Professor Jordan Peterson? If no, watch this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YthgwSaEkcw
another thing, as I mentioned before, stop this woke BS for God sake.
"white men" "white privilige" "systemic racism"
It's 2025 and you still believe this nonsense?
What is it that a woman can't do, that a man can do in today's world? (the same applies to blacks) If what you write were true, Obama wouldn't have been president of the most powerful country in the world for 10 years, and Hamilton wouldn't have been an eight-time world champion (yes, Lewis should be WDC in 2021).
Nobody talked bout those things extreme terms. That black and white professor Peterson also states that the differences are cultural as well as biological. I'd agree that there are some cases of biological difference, but it doesn't take long to look at todays gender debate to realise our understanding of it falls well short, particulr with the biological blurring around the sexes which have always been based on looking at one area, and which today we realise in fact it doesn't work like that.
The professor does indeed identify that there are societal reasons why women are help back. Those extreme terms are not ones that have been used here. I think the strongest have been sexism and unconscious bias. But that is what a culture that says men can do this and women can do that embeds. So I agree, I won't use the terms you've used, but read the thread, no one else did, but the bias we are talking about is the bias that the professor was speaking about.
We are at this point in the thread looking at the cultural reasons as to why people are obstructed from doing what they want to do. And it is important to state it using those terms. People don't always try to do what they want to do or be honest about it because they sense the barriers, whether they are even aware of it or not. Sexuality is one example over the years. It seems to be that the same argument your posting now you would apply back then before we evolved, and we learned that actually that way of thinking didn't work.
Anyway, to facts to show you your ideas, as I understand them, are misguided.
40% of the global audience of F1 is Women, for instance, this is something that has come out of a few bits of analysis. My partner and one daughter watches F1, though for her sins my daughter supports Ferrari.
Elite sports exist for women and it is big money and all over TV, in many cases growing and getting bigger.
So I guess what I'm saying is, I challenge the idea that women don't like motorsports, or that women don't commit to the same sports that men do from an early age. So what's left that could be the reason?
I would agree that due to differences in society and other causes, that they are less likely to get into motorsports. But that is that point that many on here are making. And many of those reasons can be eliminated because they are only there today because they were there yesterday.
As an aside, it was only in recent years that women referees started to appear in the premier league. Absolutely no reason they couldn't do the job, except for the way they'd be treated week in and week out by the fans in terms of decisions and abuse from the stands.
Woocasz, are you eastern european? When I hear the name Lukas in romance languages it sounds like this.