Malaysian GP 2011 - Sepang

[beelsebob]

For bookies to make money they only need to set correct odds for the actual "bet-winning" driver. But I'm wondering if the order pans out as per the order of odds(from smallest to largest)

But given that they don't know which driver will win before the race, that means they have to get the odds right for all drivers

[FrukostScones]

I think Perez will win. Epic rain battle between HAM and VET, but then they have to pit stop again and Perez will win.

[andrew]

We are all forgetting that there is one of the greatest wet weather drivers in the grid again this year. If Schumacher doesn't get rammed by a wayward Torro Rosso and if Merc can cobble together a reliable KERS unit then a surprise result would not be unexpected. A win is probably out of the question but definately a podium. Lot of ifs but not unrealistic I don't think.

[TURU]

I for one think that most people here (and not only here) seriously underestimate Renault. Sepang will play into R31's strengths much more than Albert Park did. In Melbourne they were imo 3rd best car in Qualifying as well as in the race. (unless one thinks that Petrov is better driver than Alonso).
Having followed live timing closely I can say that R31 is also kinder on its tires than both Red Bull and McLaren (not to mention Ferrari) - Petrov was able to keep great pace while others' started to drop off. Interestingly, this also seems to have escaped almost unnoticed.
Where do you expect them to be come Sunday

[PlatinumZealot]

The Renault will blow the track dry before the rear wheels hit it! Look for enromous rear end grip from the R31! Massive understeer but Lightning quick acceleration out of the corners if it rains!

[beelsebob]

We are all forgetting that there is one of the greatest wet weather drivers in the grid again this year. If Schumacher doesn't get rammed by a wayward Torro Rosso and if Merc can cobble together a reliable KERS unit then a surprise result would not be unexpected. A win is probably out of the question but definately a podium. Lot of ifs but not unrealistic I don't think.

Looking at Schumi's various performances in the wet, I think he's rather lost his regenmiester title – he was even worse in the wet than the dry! Personally, I'd go with button to gain an advantage in the wet, if there is anyone who will do so.

[PlatinumZealot]

Interesting...What sort of advantage do you mean? His last wet race was horrendous!

[WhiteBlue]

For bookies to make money they only need to set correct odds for the actual "bet-winning" driver. But I'm wondering if the order pans out as per the order of odds(from smallest to largest)

But given that they don't know which driver will win before the race, that means they have to get the odds right for all drivers

BetFair has no manual setting of the bets. The odds are set by a computer that matches the amount of money set on the drivers. The bookmaker always gets a certain cut of the winning, whoever wins. That way the automatic algorythm creates the fairest representation of the betting money's expectations.

The odds have been often correct in the past, but sometimes unexpected results happened. Vettel's engine failure in Korea and Hülkenberg winning qualifying in Brazil were such cases. Most other races and quallies were won by by Vettel as expected.

[andrew]

And a computer is only as good as the people or persons that program it.....

[andrew]

We are all forgetting that there is one of the greatest wet weather drivers in the grid again this year. If Schumacher doesn't get rammed by a wayward Torro Rosso and if Merc can cobble together a reliable KERS unit then a surprise result would not be unexpected. A win is probably out of the question but definately a podium. Lot of ifs but not unrealistic I don't think.

Looking at Schumi's various performances in the wet, I think he's rather lost his regenmiester title – he was even worse in the wet than the dry! Personally, I'd go with button to gain an advantage in the wet, if there is anyone who will do so.

With a car that is working and a after a year back he is still worth a punt in the wet.

[beelsebob]

(unless one thinks that Petrov is better driver than Alonso).

The '11 renault is a fast car, but I can't resist the urge to dig at Alonso – after all, if you can't get past Petrov for the whole of abu dhabi in a vastly superiour car...

[beelsebob]

Interesting...What sort of advantage do you mean? His last wet race was horrendous!

His ability to judge when to switch to what tyre – every single time we've had a race where the tyre choice has been non-obvious, button has always been on the right tyre at the right time. Tbh, I think this is pretty much the one area where Hamilton could learn from him.

[Poleman]

The Renault will blow the track dry before the rear wheels hit it! Look for enromous rear end grip from the R31! Massive understeer but Lightning quick acceleration out of the corners if it rains!

I sense some Steven Spielberg influence in that comment,or is it just me?

[Shrieker]

The Renault will blow the track dry before the rear wheels hit it! Look for enromous rear end grip from the R31! Massive understeer but Lightning quick acceleration out of the corners if it rains!

I never looked at it that way. Now thinking, hot exhaust gases blowing towards the ground - in front of the rear wheels- really might give an advantage !

[kris]

The Renault will blow the track dry before the rear wheels hit it! Look for enromous rear end grip from the R31! Massive understeer but Lightning quick acceleration out of the corners if it rains!

I never looked at it that way. Now thinking, hot exhaust gases blowing towards the ground - in front of the rear wheels- really might give an advantage !

With an incorrect setup they could end up with more water under the rear tyre