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One going for an early undercut forcing Red Bull to respond and the other going for the overcut should do it, provided they are second and third into T1.
The car of Mclaren is definitely not easy to drive.
The Mclaren is plenty easy to drive RELATIVE to any other F1 car on the grid. And it has no real general weaknesses at all.
Yes, all these current formula of cars can be sensitive to some degree, but literally any driver on the grid would kill to have the driveability, wide working window, great tire life and high ceiling of performance as the Mclaren.
Watching it through S1 especially just shows how incredible the car is. The front end is absolutely laser guided and the rear tracks perfectly with it, all while never burning the tires too much at all and somehow regularly able to get even stronger through the rest of the lap when others fade. It's an outright dominant car.
99% of the people here accept that the MCL39 is a vastly superior car to anything else on the grid. A proper dominant car. Whether that will be the case by end of 2025, nobody knows ; as anyone could spring a surprise like McLaren themselves did with Miami 2024 update. Nevertheless, as the state of play currently stands, MCL39 is leagues ahead of everything else. The reason we are seeing Q margins like 0.1-0.2s (instead of 0.4-0.5s) is purely because Norris and Piastri are not yet into the 'elite category' of driving where not even marginal mistakes are made in Q3. In race pace, despite not pushing, MCL39 is minimum 0.6-0.7s (I actually believe it's 1s on high DF tracks, since Mclaren's aero efficiency is leagues ahead of others)
Now, if someone has etched it in stone into his head that MCL39 is not a dominant car, and that Norris & Piastri are Senna level drivers who are 'hustling' the car, somehow, despite the difficult dog that the car is, into the front row and podiums ; consistently over the past three weekends, whether it be practice or sprint or quali ; well, what can we say ?
I am watching how many members are going to try to inform and correct one man's confirmation bias in this thread. I tried and failed. Probably Norris and Piastri themselves have to come and post in this thread, to convince. Even then, it's doubtful that the correction will happen.
With all due respect if the car was 5 tenths faster then it would still be easy to win every single Qualifying and Race even with a mistake or two. No amount of talent can cover up that much unless you are Ayrton Senna but today 80% of the work is done by the car. So far neither Qualifying or Races were easy to win and that clearly shows that the car is not a dominant machine that can forgive a mistake or two with pure pace. I can't believe that people would underestimate our drivers so much.
Red Bull of 2022 and 2023 was dominant. The Mclaren is far from that.
Put Norris in those cars instead of Verstappen and they wouldn't look any different than the Mclaren today.
And it's pretty clear that Mclaren have actually extended their advantage they already had in 2024, where they had the best car. We're basically in a situation where the only reason Mclaren wont win a race is because they underperform/mess up somehow. I didn't say their results were dominant, I said the CAR is dominant.
For another example, and just to prove I'm not here just to crap on Mclaren, I believe Ferrari had a dominant car in 2007 and 2008. And it was embarrassing that any of those championships were as close as they were, let alone that they lost in 2008.
Dude those cars were so dominant that Serzio Perez an average driver missed 2nd by two points and came comfortably 2nd a year later. You couldnt have chosen a worst example to undermine the two Mclaren drivers. At least can you quantify how much do you think they miss from top drivers in terms of time?
Anyway Im not really interested anymore about this back and forth. Let's give it our all tomorrow and take that 1-2.
But first things first Norris and Piastri should keep at least 2 and 3. The side of Norris is greasier so I hope he doesn't lose any position. There's also the part where Max has lower downforce but better top speed. Hopefully there is a way to pass him considering he's gonna be aggressive in his defence and Suzuka is not easy to pass with only two not so much large straights.
Dude those cars were so dominant that Serzio Perez an average driver missed 2nd by two points and came comfortably 2nd a year later. You couldnt have chosen a worst example to undermine the two Mclaren drivers. At least can you quantify how much do you think they miss from top drivers in terms of time?
Anyway Im not really interested anymore about this back and forth. Let's give it our all tomorrow and take that 1-2.
Right, the same ‘average’ Sergio Pérez who matched a world champion Jenson Button in his first year in McLaren. The same guy who dominated Stroll just as comfortably as Vettel and Alonso, two all time greats.
But don’t stop posting. Your takes are genuinely impressive… in how consistently wrong they are.
Keep the comedy coming, your posts are unintentionally a case study in consistency
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