2022 - McLaren Formula 1 Team

[Xero]

Clearly focussed on long runs while evaluating the brake solution, treated very much like a testing session. Too early to call them slow, and definitely not sandbagging. Just sticking to their own agenda.

Anyone have a source for the stint times to gloss over?

You could class sandbagging as not showing your hand which is what we are doing at the moment due to focusing on testing out this new brake fix with some long runs on heavy fuel.

I'd consider sandbagging as deliberately hiding performance from other teams, rather than a consequence of a compromised programme.

[bauc]

Clearly focussed on long runs while evaluating the brake solution, treated very much like a testing session. Too early to call them slow, and definitely not sandbagging. Just sticking to their own agenda.

Anyone have a source for the stint times to gloss over?

You could class sandbagging as not showing your hand which is what we are doing at the moment due to focusing on testing out this new brake fix with some long runs on heavy fuel.

I'd consider sandbagging as deliberately hiding performance from other teams, rather than a consequence of a compromised programme.

Mclaren, in the past few year were never going about lap times in FP1 .... I think they have the same approach this year as well, plus having to check if the intermediate solution for the overheating problem works or not dictates different approach by itself.

[McFAN]

This was Perez/Verstappen stint:

Both Mediums

For comparison

1.39.189
1.39.194
1.39.331
1.39.378
1.40.832
1.42.033

1.38.702
1.39.190
1.38.872
1.38.890
1.39.060
1.39.862
1.39.365
1.39.759
1.39.250
1.39.598

Obv. we don't know the variables fuel load etc. but still good to get a ballpark figure

Certainly encouraging

[SmallSoldier]

You could class sandbagging as not showing your hand which is what we are doing at the moment due to focusing on testing out this new brake fix with some long runs on heavy fuel.

I'd consider sandbagging as deliberately hiding performance from other teams, rather than a consequence of a compromised programme.

Mclaren, in the past few year were never going about lap times in FP1 .... I think they have the same approach this year as well, plus having to check if the intermediate solution for the overheating problem works or not dictates different approach by itself.

In the Team Stream they also mentioned that the goal for Daniel for example was to get familiar with the track on these cars since he missed testing… Plenty of laps from him with that goal in mind.

[EddyBaggio]

Its not looking good….

based on what?

Based on time set and overall feeling. Sure we can be faster ofc, but so will all the other cars be as well. I think we will struggle all weekend.

[Emag]

Its not looking good….

based on what?

Based on time set and overall feeling. Sure we can be faster ofc, but so will all the other cars be as well. I think we will struggle all weekend.

Damn dude, can you give me a prediction for this entire season so I can go set some bets?

You seem to be able to know exactly how fast or not each car is after a single practice session.

[SmallSoldier]

based on what?

Based on time set and overall feeling. Sure we can be faster ofc, but so will all the other cars be as well. I think we will struggle all weekend.

Damn dude, can you give me a prediction for this entire season so I can go set some bets?

You seem to be able to know exactly how fast or not each car is after a single practice session.

Specially one based on one of the most unrepresentative practice sessions of the year… The track is green and dusty, the temperature is very high compared to when Qualy and the Race will take place and the teams are still on “testing” mode.

[EddyBaggio]

based on what?

Based on time set and overall feeling. Sure we can be faster ofc, but so will all the other cars be as well. I think we will struggle all weekend.

Damn dude, can you give me a prediction for this entire season so I can go set some bets?

You seem to be able to know exactly how fast or not each car is after a single practice session.

No ofc I dont.

Do you think we are in a good shape for the race? Was last weekends test a good step forward?

[bauc]

Based on time set and overall feeling. Sure we can be faster ofc, but so will all the other cars be as well. I think we will struggle all weekend.

Damn dude, can you give me a prediction for this entire season so I can go set some bets?

You seem to be able to know exactly how fast or not each car is after a single practice session.

No ofc I dont.

Do you think we are in a good shape for the race? Was last weekends test a good step forward?

Аnyone here remembers the octopus exhaust fiasco? And them bam P2 on the first race.

[Emag]

No ofc I dont.

Do you think we are in a good shape for the race? Was last weekends test a good step forward?

How the hell do you know we are not in a good shape after literally the first practice session of the season.

There were fp sessions last year where they were lower than p15 and did amazing on quali when it mattered (e.g Imola).

So to answer your question, I don't know if we are on a good shape. But I also don't know if we are on a bad shape.

If they are still p16 and p17 tomorrow, then you can say that, but not literally after the first FP1 of the season.

[mwillems]

Clearly focussed on long runs while evaluating the brake solution, treated very much like a testing session. Too early to call them slow, and definitely not sandbagging. Just sticking to their own agenda.

Anyone have a source for the stint times to gloss over?

You could class sandbagging as not showing your hand which is what we are doing at the moment due to focusing on testing out this new brake fix with some long runs on heavy fuel.

Sandbagging denotes been purposely slow… Focusing on your own program and been “slow” because of that are very different things.

And they will most likely have totally detuned the engine to the max, given that they need to workhorse the unit.

All we need to know is that the car survived so test 1, Brake ducts appear to work!

[mwillems]

Its not looking good….

Welcome to the sharkpit

There's so much going off right now. The only real FP you get a proper sense of order is FP3 and even then things can go on their head due to FP strategies and even silly thinks like wind pattern behaviour on track, swinging in favour from one car to another. Mclaren had this last year when we look strong in FP3 and blew it in Q, and it turned out that our car struggle with certain tailwinds that picked up before Qualy.

Everyone's mantra for the new season, repeat it every weekend: Practise tells me nothing, practise tells me nothing..

Then do 4 hail Marys and if you're not religious, maybe 4 Bloody Mary's instead.

[101FlyingDutchman]

Actually BAH is an oddity as FP2 is most representative of Qualifying in terms of time of day/temperatures. So expect to see most of the performance runs done in the session coming up

[mwillems]

Actually BAH is an oddity as FP2 is most representative of Qualifying in terms of time of day/temperatures. So expect to see most of the performance runs done in the session coming up

Yes true, the evening session, I forgot about that!

[EddyBaggio]

Its not looking good….

Welcome to the sharkpit

There's so much going off right now. The only real FP you get a proper sense of order is FP3 and even then things can go on their head due to FP strategies and even silly thinks like wind pattern behaviour on track, swinging in favour from one car to another. Mclaren had this last year when we look strong in FP3 and blew it in Q, and it turned out that our car struggle with certain tailwinds that picked up before Qualy.

Everyone's mantra for the new season, repeat it every weekend: Practise tells me nothing, practise tells me nothing..

Then do 4 hail Marys and if you're not religious, maybe 4 Bloody Mary's instead.

Haha I take 4 hot shot Galliano

Some around here will say everything is allright even if we have two DNFs on sunday